This is why we didn't focus on the front 7...

[Hootie]

I said this during last year...and was always hit by a Hamas stat about how bad our rush defense was...

I always thought our biggest problem was our pass defense and our inability to get off the field on 3rd and long. I always cheered for the opposition to waste a 2nd down on a run play...because we were better in 3rd and 3 than we were in 3rd and 10 defensively...

Teams knew this too...our rush defense got a bad wrap because we were consistently losing by 2+ scores in the 4th quarter and teams like the Giants...who gashed us with the pass all game long...used their final possessions to bad their rushing stats...and the Ravens...and even the Cowboys game 1/4th of their rushing yards came on one long run (kind of like the Skins game when we shut down Portis minus one long run as well)...

The formula for beating us last year? A good passing game...and we made even marginal passing games look AMAZING. Just check this out:

Flacco 300+ yards (96 rating)

Oakland beat us averaging 2.7 YPC in week 2

Kolb 300 + yards (120 rating)

E. Manning 292 yards (104 rating)

Romo 350 yards (113 rating)

Rivers 270 yards (123 rating)

Garrard 270 yards (111 rating)

Rivers 300+ yards (136 rating)

Orton 180 yards (92 rating) 245 rush yards allowed

Edwards (66 rating) 200 rush yards allowed

Quinn (28 rating) 350 rush yards allowed

Palmer (92 rating) Benson 4.6 YPC

...

Anyone see the trend here? It's nice that guys like OTWP like to conveniently ignore what we were REALLY bad at last year.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Hey, we got better over the last 7 games.

Enough to drop us from 52% of rushing yardage coming in the first half over the first 9 games - to 51% in the first half for the entire season.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I came over DJ. Looks like I was wrong there. I came over Dorsey. I don't think I was wrong there, but I don't know if anyone will ever truly know. Berry made me just as happy. Maybe more. He's a dynamic play maker. You know, in an area that we desperately needed one.

but dj and dorsey were accidents...they fell to us, it felt good but lucky


i wanted Berry leading in to the draft...so it felt like getting what i wanted for the first time ever....and i'm convinced he'll live up to the hype...

[Brianfo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I came over DJ. Looks like I was wrong there. I came over Dorsey. I don't think I was wrong there, but I don't know if anyone will ever truly know. Berry made me just as happy. Maybe more. He's a dynamic play maker. You know, in an area that we desperately needed one.

Dorsey is ready to break out. I can feel it. DJ just needs to be able to play in space and he will be fine. MLB is a serious need, but until we get greater line play from the nose our mlb could be Ray Lewis. Remember what happened when we owned the line of scrimmage against them on Monday night football. Ray Ray could do nothing but cry.

[KCrockaholic]

This is Hootie at his absolute dumbest....

He's an ok guy and all, but his head is so far up Peyton Mannings ass he can't even think straight.

[Hootie]

all I know about watching the Chiefs last year was...

I loved to see teams run on 1st and 2nd down against us...

it was our best chance of MAYBE forcing a punt...

If they just dropped back 90 times a game and didn't run the ball...I'm not sure we ever would have gotten a stop...

any time we faced a somewhat legit - legit QB, we got massacred.

You can only make so many excuses for Brandon Carr before you realize it wasn't all Mike Brown.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

all I know about watching the Chiefs last year was...

I loved to see teams run on 1st and 2nd down against us...

it was our best chance of MAYBE forcing a punt...

If they just dropped back 90 times a game and didn't run the ball...I'm not sure we ever would have gotten a stop...

any time we faced a somewhat legit - legit QB, we got massacred.

You can only make so many excuses for Brandon Carr before you realize it wasn't all Mike Brown.

just erase your original post and we'll all pretend it didn't happen

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hey, we got better over the last 7 games.

Enough to drop us from 52% of rushing yardage coming in the first half over the first 9 games - to 51% in the first half for the entire season.

I wonder if that has anything to do with the quality of opponents we played? Or the fact our offense started getting first downs?

JFC dude...

Put two and two together...

All of the evidence you need is right in the Baltimore Ravens game...

That team is a running team who knew the best way to beat us was through the air.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

just erase your original post and we'll all pretend it didn't happen

He's just going to keep digging that hole.

Read the post before this one for proof.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

but dj and dorsey were accidents...they fell to us, it felt good but lucky


i wanted Berry leading in to the draft...so it felt like getting what i wanted for the first time ever....and i'm convinced he'll live up to the hype...

Good point. We got lucky with both DJ and Dorsey. Berry was a guy that was expected to be there and we reached out and grabbed that mutha****a.

Originally Posted by Brianfo

Dorsey is ready to break out. I can feel it. DJ just needs to be able to play in space and he will be fine. MLB is a serious need, but until we get greater line play from the nose our mlb could be Ray Lewis. Remember what happened when we owned the line of scrimmage against them on Monday night football. Ray Ray could do nothing but cry.

I'm incredibly optimistic. I think it's safe to say that DJ is what he is at this stage, but I'm hoping he wakes up and finds some passion for the game. Dorsey, well, this is his year. He's not in his element, and we're not using him at his greatest strength, but he's good enough to overcome it. I'm really hoping he does. He's been my favorite Chief since we drafted him. Berry may overtake that, but for now, Dorsey is still my guy.

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You know that we were REALLY bad at pretty much every single facet of playing defense last year, right?

Pass defense, rush defense, putting our cleats on the right foot. Mostly, our defense couldn't do a single thing well.

And we used the 36th overall on a scat-back and the 50th on a kick returner/corner blitzer.

We still have no LBs. We still have no SS. We still have a garbage set of down-linemen.

We will continue to suck at stopping the pass because we can't get any heat on the QB and even when we do, our LBs are all so slow and so awful that the middle of the field will be open to anyone that wants it. We will also continue to suck at stopping the run because of aforementioned old/slow/weak LBs and garbage down-linemen.

No, nobody's overlooking what we "really struggled" at. We "really struggled" at damn near everything. So we went out and put shiny new rims and a chrome rearview mirror on our '76 Fiat.

****ing. Awesome.

Yes our D sucked pretty much everywhere, but by hopefully improving our O, we helped our D by being able to put together drives instead of 3 & out's, thereby keeping the D off the field. Granted I was hoping for a defensive draft, but I can see where we're going. GO

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

just erase your original post and we'll all pretend it didn't happen

we had one roster worthy CB before taking Arenas...and probably zero roster worthy safeties before taking Berry...

Yet when Arenas was taken everyone shit a brick we didn't draft a guy to take Hali's position...our one legitimate pass rusher...

...

and I wish opponents would waste more downs on running the ball against us...that alone would make our defense much, much better.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Flachief58

Yes our D sucked pretty much everywhere, but by hopefully improving our O, we helped our D by being able to put together drives instead of 3 & out's, thereby keeping the D off the field. Granted I was hoping for a defensive draft, but I can see where we're going. GO

I'm trying to get right here. At least until September.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He's just going to keep digging that hole.

Read the post before this one for proof.

I'm not the idiot who kept saying teams were going to run for 300 yards against us every week in the draft thread...

Or kept talking about Jerome Harrison...

Because that wasn't even our main problem last year.

That's the point of this you dumb****...

Our problem last year was defending the pass...way more than defending the run.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You know that we were REALLY bad at pretty much every single facet of playing defense last year, right?

Pass defense, rush defense, putting our cleats on the right foot. Mostly, our defense couldn't do a single thing well.

And we used the 36th overall on a scat-back and the 50th on a kick returner/corner blitzer.

We still have no LBs. We still have no SS. We still have a garbage set of down-linemen.

We will continue to suck at stopping the pass because we can't get any heat on the QB and even when we do, our LBs are all so slow and so awful that the middle of the field will be open to anyone that wants it. We will also continue to suck at stopping the run because of aforementioned old/slow/weak LBs and garbage down-linemen.

No, nobody's overlooking what we "really struggled" at. We "really struggled" at damn near everything. So we went out and put shiny new rims and a chrome rearview mirror on our '76 Fiat.

****ing. Awesome.

Well, again, we had problems everywhere. Poor pass offense, poor pass defense, poor run defense, poor return game. We chose to upgrade everywhere but run defense. That doesn't mean the Chiefs don't care. That doesn't mean it's not absolute #1 priority for next season. That's the reason why I don't understand the panic. While I"d love to win more now, I'm more interested in seeing if we take a big step in the right direction. We didn't in 2009 and we wasted a year. I think we can take a major step forward in 2010, if the picks work right. If.

In terms of some ways that our upgrades can trickle into run defense, while some say ignore it, there's no doubt that upgrading at D-coordinator will make at least some difference. As well as some very mild improvements by having Shaun Smith instead of Ron Edwards. Also, you'd expect at least SOME improvement from Dorsey and Jackson. Those are things we already know and they won't be enough.

The small things you also have to account for is how a good offense can keep your defense on the field--so many of the first halves of our games were dominated by three and outs on offense. There were plenty of drives last year where our run defense did their job, but we were absolutely horrendous at third down efficiency. Adding a coverage guy like Berry and a nickel back that's better than Washington (not hard to do) won't solve everything, but it helps us improve. Those things help keep the defense off the field. How many big run plays do we eliminate by Berry being on the field instead of Mike Brown? Does having a rangy Safety like Berry allow our LBs to focus more on the run, instead of being asked to cover our Safeties' asses much of the time? Does our faster, better secondary make us more equipped to stop the outside run?

Obviously we have a long way to go and our run defense is going to be our achilles heel. But that doesn't bother me that much unless we take a big step backward as a team or we stake only a very small step forward on pass offense, run offense, and pass defense. If our picks work out, then you can devote all your 2011 focus on the LBs and NT.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

hey OTWP...

how many rushing TD's did we give up in the first 9 games...and how many passing TD's did we give up?

Total for the year we gave up 18 rushing TD and 25 receiving TD's.

2nd half of the year 13 rushing TD and 12 receiving TD's.