Chiefs 2012 Season - Page 5

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:12 PM

Say the Chiefs go on to lose out which is very much a possibilty. Finish the season with a top 7 pick and select Matt Barkley from USC to play QB.

Do you start him right away?

If so, what kind of expectations should we have next year?

Now say the Chiefs were to pick RGIII instead. What would you do with him in reference to the above questions?

Discuss.

O.city · 12-02-2011, 11:36 PM

I think RGIII is more accurate that Newton.

O.city · 12-02-2011, 11:37 PM

I'm anxious to see who the Chiefs will be mocked to draft when they start getting higher and higher in the draft.

They never seem to slate us with a qb.

**BossChief** · 12-02-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think RGIII is more accurate that Newton.

accuracy

edge: RG3

arm strength

edge: Newton

mobility

edge: push

Size

edge: Newton

O.city · 12-02-2011, 11:45 PM

Probably right. Although I don't think the arm strength is by a wide margin.

**BossChief** · 12-02-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Probably right. Although I don't think the arm strength is by a wide margin.

I do.

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Also, Id like to add that Walter has us taking Landry Jones in the first round.

IMO I think he is probably the only real possibility.

Like Hamas said a week or two ago, Orton will win us one game that we wouldnt have otherwise won and that will cause us to lose out on Barkley, Luck and RG3....the next guy up is Jones and for some reason lots of scouts really like him.

I just dont see what they do, I guess.

**BossChief** · 12-02-2011, 11:50 PM

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php

10. Kansas City Chiefs: Landry "Lance" Jones, QB, Oklahoma
It was rumored that Todd Haley could be fired following a slow start at the beginning of the season. The scuttlebutt died down once the Chiefs won a few consecutive games, but if they finish with four or five victories, Haley's as good as gone.

If Haley leaves, I think Matt Cassel is going with him. Cassel is owed $5.25 million in 2012, so Scott Pioli could easily get rid of him in the spring. If so, he'll definitely be interested in one of the four franchise quarterbacks available in the 2012 NFL Draft.

...

Thats from his mock That's updated Thursday.

O.city · 12-02-2011, 11:52 PM

I don't get the Jones hype either. He makes to many WTF throws. Is what it is i guess.

I think RGIII probably has the strongest arm of all the qbs in the draft. His motion is pretty solid too.

I think his motion is better than Newtons, raw arm strength probably not. But he is more accurate and has plenty of arm strength.

whoman69 · 12-02-2011, 11:55 PM

Truthfully the first year with a rookie QB can be pretty painful. I'd say we plan to put him in around the 4th game after giving him a long look in pre-season. He isn't rushed in, yet he does get some gametime experience in the first year. Everyone wants to talk about how great Cam Newton was but if you look closer you see the mistakes that cost them games. We should have a lot of talent around our new QB is we can close up the holes we have on both sides of the ball.

O.city · 12-03-2011, 12:00 AM

The Chiefs 2012 could be alot like the Steelers were Big Bens rookie year. not superbowl contenders, but we have alot of pieces in place. I'm gonna go ahead and assume the three acl's come back healthy.

We have a smart draft, draft our qb, by the time he really comes into his own in say 3 or 4 years the bulk of our roster should be in it's prime, with a few reaching the end.

The key is to keep drafting wise.

**BossChief** · 12-03-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The Chiefs 2012 could be alot like the Steelers were Big Bens rookie year. not superbowl contenders, but we have alot of pieces in place. I'm gonna go ahead and assume the three acl's come back healthy.

We have a smart draft, draft our qb, by the time he really comes into his own in say 3 or 4 years the bulk of our roster should be in it's prime, with a few reaching the end.

The key is to keep drafting wise.

THIS

Fritz88 · 12-03-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The Chiefs 2012 could be alot like the Steelers were Big Bens rookie year. not superbowl contenders, but we have alot of pieces in place. I'm gonna go ahead and assume the three acl's come back healthy.

We have a smart draft, draft our qb, by the time he really comes into his own in say 3 or 4 years the bulk of our roster should be in it's prime, with a few reaching the end.

The key is to keep drafting wise.

The odds are against us in getting 100% recovery from all three.

I'd probably choose a healthy Berry and Tony over JC.
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O.city · 12-03-2011, 12:35 AM

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The odds are against us in getting 100% recovery from all three.

I'd probably choose a healthy Berry and Tony over JC.
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I wouldn't say the odds are that bad. Alot of guys in the NFL have injuries and come back fine. With the technology and treatment they are getting now there isn't any reason to think otherwise.

Atleast I hope.

jd1020 · 12-03-2011, 12:41 AM

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The odds are against us in getting 100% recovery from all three.

I'd probably choose a healthy Berry and Tony over JC.
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Give me Berry and JC. **** Tony, imo. He's just going to get injured again.

I'm keeping an eye on this Ladarius Green kid in the late rounds of the draft.

O.city · 12-03-2011, 12:45 AM

Still pretty ****ing pissed at Stevie ****face for cheapshotting Berry.

**BossChief** · 12-03-2011, 12:47 AM

My hope is that Berry will come back to full strength and be still on course and improving.

He is damn good, but has a lot of work to do in coverage before he is truly an elite safety.

Moeaki will be fine and hopefully, finds a way to kick the "injury prone" label going forward, but it would be wise for us to draft another tight end just in case he cant.

Charles is the one I worry a little about.

Sometimes, it takes backs awhile to trust the knee again.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	2012 Season Say the Chiefs go on to lose out which is very much a possibilty. Finish the season with a top 7 pick and select Matt Barkley from USC to play QB. Do you start him right away? If so, what kind of expectations should we have next year? Now say the Chiefs were to pick RGIII instead. What would you do with him in reference to the above questions? Discuss.
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12-02-2011, 11:36 PM	#61
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	I think RGIII is more accurate that Newton.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	I'm anxious to see who the Chiefs will be mocked to draft when they start getting higher and higher in the draft. They never seem to slate us with a qb.
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12-02-2011, 11:45 PM	#64
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	Probably right. Although I don't think the arm strength is by a wide margin.
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12-02-2011, 11:50 PM	#66
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1364088	http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php 10. Kansas City Chiefs: Landry "Lance" Jones, QB, Oklahoma It was rumored that Todd Haley could be fired following a slow start at the beginning of the season. The scuttlebutt died down once the Chiefs won a few consecutive games, but if they finish with four or five victories, Haley's as good as gone. If Haley leaves, I think Matt Cassel is going with him. Cassel is owed $5.25 million in 2012, so Scott Pioli could easily get rid of him in the spring. If so, he'll definitely be interested in one of the four franchise quarterbacks available in the 2012 NFL Draft. ... Thats from his mock That's updated Thursday. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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12-02-2011, 11:52 PM	#67
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	I don't get the Jones hype either. He makes to many WTF throws. Is what it is i guess. I think RGIII probably has the strongest arm of all the qbs in the draft. His motion is pretty solid too. I think his motion is better than Newtons, raw arm strength probably not. But he is more accurate and has plenty of arm strength.
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12-03-2011, 12:00 AM	#69
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	The Chiefs 2012 could be alot like the Steelers were Big Bens rookie year. not superbowl contenders, but we have alot of pieces in place. I'm gonna go ahead and assume the three acl's come back healthy. We have a smart draft, draft our qb, by the time he really comes into his own in say 3 or 4 years the bulk of our roster should be in it's prime, with a few reaching the end. The key is to keep drafting wise.
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12-03-2011, 12:45 AM	#74
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	Still pretty **ing pissed at Stevie **face for cheapshotting Berry.
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12-03-2011, 12:47 AM	#75
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1364088	My hope is that Berry will come back to full strength and be still on course and improving. He is damn good, but has a lot of work to do in coverage before he is truly an elite safety. Moeaki will be fine and hopefully, finds a way to kick the "injury prone" label going forward, but it would be wise for us to draft another tight end just in case he cant. Charles is the one I worry a little about. Sometimes, it takes backs awhile to trust the knee again. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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