Chiefs 2012 Season

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:12 PM

Say the Chiefs go on to lose out which is very much a possibilty. Finish the season with a top 7 pick and select Matt Barkley from USC to play QB.

Do you start him right away?

If so, what kind of expectations should we have next year?

Now say the Chiefs were to pick RGIII instead. What would you do with him in reference to the above questions?

Discuss.

KCrockaholic · 12-01-2011, 10:13 PM

Start either one right away from day 1.

I'd still expect 10-6 next year IF this QB we take is actually worth a crap.

If we had Luck we'd go 11-5. Guaranteed.

**RealSNR** · 12-01-2011, 10:14 PM

**lewdog** · 12-01-2011, 10:16 PM

Barkley will be much more ready to play and could start if he puts in work during the offseason. I feel Barkley will have a decent grasp of a pro offense.

RGIII is more of a project and would take much more time to be ready to play. I wouldn't see him playing in his first season if he was drafted.

RGIII has a higher upside or possible peak play but also a greater probability to be a bust.

Just my opinion.

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:18 PM

I'm starting to lean more towards Barkely for the pro style argument sake. RGIII is a little more of a project.

Urc Burry · 12-01-2011, 10:26 PM

Barkley will likely be the #2 QB taken, and the odds of us finishing with a higher pick then both the redskins and dolphins isn't too likely. Barkley is the safer bet, but RG3 has a much higher ceiling to me.

evolve27 · 12-01-2011, 10:36 PM

Either Barkley or RG3 you start year two, get rid of Zorn and coach them up. Let's just hope we don't draft a late round project QB from who gives a ****...

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:38 PM

I think Barkley is a day 1 guy.

RGIII maybe year two.

I'd also like to keep Zorn around.

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Barkley will likely be the #2 QB taken, and the odds of us finishing with a higher pick then both the redskins and dolphins isn't too likely. Barkley is the safer bet, but RG3 has a much higher ceiling to me.

The Redskins can still win another game or two and could get to 6 wins. Dolphins have a pretty damn hard schedule but they do always play the AFC East tough. Who knows. Even if we do finish ahead of them either one of them could trade up.

I agree with you though, that odds are we won't have an option. We might be lucky to have either one of them there when we pick. I can see Pioli using the "well if Barkley was there I would have" excuse.

Chief_For_Life58 · 12-01-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog_5

Barkley will be much more ready to play and could start if he puts in work during the offseason. I feel Barkley will have a decent grasp of a pro offense.

RGIII is more of a project and would take much more time to be ready to play. I wouldn't see him playing in his first season if he was drafted.

RGIII has a higher upside or possible peak play but also a greater probability to be a bust.

Just my opinion.

Why would rg3 be more of a project? both are projects theyre rookie qbs starting first game...rg3 could learn our system just as fast if NOT FASTER. dude is just as much a beast on the football field as in the classroom. no homo

evolve27 · 12-01-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think Barkley is a day 1 guy.

RGIII maybe year two.

I'd also like to keep Zorn around.

My feeling is the Aaron Rodgers effect of having them sit on the bench for a year or so. I'd love to see them immediately but who knows if they are ready.

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:41 PM

The Dolphins are playing pretty good football right now. Hell they should have probably beat the Boys in Jerrworld.

They could easily beat the Jets and the Raiders.

Willie Lanier · 12-01-2011, 10:43 PM

Please, please, please
let me, get what I want
lord knows it would be the first time

(Butchered Smiths reference)

Please let us land RGIII

Chief_For_Life58 · 12-01-2011, 10:43 PM

honestly this is my opinion but if youre taking a qb first round and hes first round talent, you need to start him first game. If he was born to be a starting nfl qb he'll make it

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by evolve27

My feeling is the Aaron Rodgers effect of having them sit on the bench for a year or so. I'd love to see them immediately but who knows if they are ready.

I think you can do that when you have a qb in place like the Pack did. That was really the perfect situation for that to happen.

It's gonna be pretty hard to justify taking a guy number 5 overall and sitting him on the bench for a year.

If we take Barkley, he should start day 1. **** it don't even have any competition.

Just bring him in, introduce him to Bowe,Baldwin,Breaston,Charles,Mo,dex(I know Clay I know) and whoever else you draft this year on offense and say here you go.

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12-01-2011, 10:16 PM	#4
lewdog Mod Team Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Valley of the hot as **** Casino cash: $1621900	Barkley will be much more ready to play and could start if he puts in work during the offseason. I feel Barkley will have a decent grasp of a pro offense. RGIII is more of a project and would take much more time to be ready to play. I wouldn't see him playing in his first season if he was drafted. RGIII has a higher upside or possible peak play but also a greater probability to be a bust. Just my opinion.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	I'm starting to lean more towards Barkely for the pro style argument sake. RGIII is a little more of a project.
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Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9031048	Barkley will likely be the #2 QB taken, and the odds of us finishing with a higher pick then both the redskins and dolphins isn't too likely. Barkley is the safer bet, but RG3 has a much higher ceiling to me.
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4612900	Start either one right away from day 1. I'd still expect 10-6 next year IF this QB we take is actually worth a crap. If we had Luck we'd go 11-5. Guaranteed.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	I think Barkley is a day 1 guy. RGIII maybe year two. I'd also like to keep Zorn around.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	The Dolphins are playing pretty good football right now. Hell they should have probably beat the Boys in Jerrworld. They could easily beat the Jets and the Raiders.
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12-01-2011, 10:43 PM	#13
Willie Lanier Veteran Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canton Casino cash: $8817261	Please, please, please let me, get what I want lord knows it would be the first time (Butchered Smiths reference) Please let us land RGIII Last edited by Willie Lanier; 12-01-2011 at 10:49 PM..
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Chief_For_Life58 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: KC Casino cash: $9925938	honestly this is my opinion but if youre taking a qb first round and hes first round talent, you need to start him first game. If he was born to be a starting nfl qb he'll make it
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