Chiefs LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"? - Page 5

**BossChief** · 01-16-2015, 10:40 PM

Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?

**cdcox** · 01-16-2015, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Like the Buffalo game this year?

If you were good to go with Alex why the hell did you start this thread????

**BossChief** · 01-16-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sure but that playoff game was his career apex. It would be shocking if he could repeat that performance once, let alone multiple times per season. He's just never been that guy in the NFL.

To be completely fair, he hasn't ever had a good receiving corps, either.

If we go into next year with

Bowe (only at a reduced cost)
DGB
Thomas
Wilson
Avant
Another draft pick

To add to

Charles
Davis
Kelce
-Vernon Davis-

I think Alex Smith will come out of his shell and start to trust his abilities more.

I hope I'm right.

**BossChief** · 01-16-2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

If you were good to go with Alex why the hell did you start this thread????

I didn't say I was.

Just pointing out an example for the situation you layed out.

**BossChief** · 01-16-2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think he could play outside.

He seems to really have the mentality, Steve Smith kind of mentality (who he models his game after, or tries to) to play outside.

I'm not trying to put it past the kid. I love his attitude and work ethic to go with his raw skills...and can't believe he was available to us.

Kids a keeper.

I just think that if this team is gonna have any chance at winning something significant with Alex Smith, guys like Wilson should be a 3...not a 2.

**Easy 6** · 01-16-2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

You keep looking at averages. Consider a situation where the Chiefs are down 10 in the 3rd quarter and we are facing a good defense. The opponent's DL will get pressure and our WR won't get Alex Smith open. This will never be fixed.

Down by 10 against a regular season "tough guy"... Alex will kick their sorry ass for even daring to to imagine beating the Chiefs, atleast one of every 10 times it happens.

Down by 10 against a playoff team that deserves to be there?... I have so little faith in the guy that switching over to the Lifetime network seems like a smart move.

Was it Hamas that said the Indy game last year was Smiths Buster Douglas moment? whoever it was that shit was DEAD ON, dude was a pumpkin for one game and fooled a great many of us with it... and lets be honest, he balled the **** OUT that game... and thats where that game game stayed.

A one shot deal, the best nut he ever blasted, never to be seen again.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-16-2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

To be completely fair, he hasn't ever had a good receiving corps, either.

While I agree completely, I think it's kind of "Pie in the Sky" to expect him to suddenly become a great QB because his receiving corp is massively upgraded.

It's just hard for me to believe he'd suddenly become a gunslinger.

**BossChief** · 01-16-2015, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

He's got too much of a mental block. I don't think he's got a gun slinger gene in him.

I re watched a few of the games from the second half of 2013 and think he has shown the ability to come out of that shell.

**RealSNR** · 01-16-2015, 11:53 PM

You ever see the end of Old Yeller?

That's how Alex can be fixed.

O.city · 01-16-2015, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I'm not trying to put it past the kid. I love his attitude and work ethic to go with his raw skills...and can't believe he was available to us.

Kids a keeper.

I just think that if this team is gonna have any chance at winning something significant with Alex Smith, guys like Wilson should be a 3...not a 2.

I can roll with that.

If DGB's off field stuff checks out (I'm skeptical it will enough for them) and he's there at 18 he would be in the discussion probably.

It's just really early for draft talk.

Hypothetically, if Desean Jackson gets cut which is a rumor I read somewhere, would you target him here?

O.city · 01-16-2015, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

While I agree completely, I think it's kind of "Pie in the Sky" to expect him to suddenly become a great QB because his receiving corp is massively upgraded.

It's just hard for me to believe he'd suddenly become a gunslinger.

I think putting a competent or even really good OL in front of him would go farther than a massively upgraded WR corp.

But, hopefully we do both and see what happens.

**RealSNR** · 01-16-2015, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Alex is 31. They need to try and drAft their high ceiling kid to sit and learn ala Rodgers.

I come into this year less prepared than most. Was very busy and didn't get to watch the qbs as much as I usually like to.

I like the prospect of Andy Reid being given a guy with top shelf tools to free up the cap space Chase Daniel takes up.

Andy Reid had that opportunity last draft in Teddy Bridgewater.

He passed.

**BossChief** · 01-16-2015, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

While I agree completely, I think it's kind of "Pie in the Sky" to expect him to suddenly become a great QB because his receiving corp is massively upgraded.

It's just hard for me to believe he'd suddenly become a gunslinger.

If this team signs Davis and drafts a kid with the talent if DGB, he will be able to trust his weapons a lot more than he does Hemmingway and Fasano.

That trust alone will help his level of play

**cdcox** · 01-16-2015, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

You ever see the end of Old Yeller?

That's how Alex can be fixed.

jonzie04 · 01-16-2015, 11:56 PM

He can definitely get better.. But he's not going to magically grow a set of balls, and learn the ability to fire the ball into tight places, with a dt coming right at him. He's never going to start wanting to win, more than he doesnt want to lose the game by throwing a pick.

O.city · 01-16-2015, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

You ever see the end of Old Yeller?

That's how Alex can be fixed.

Get raped bitch.

01-16-2015, 10:40 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1765912	LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"? Part of me wants to think so. We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager. Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality. His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit. Here's my question: If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)? If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?
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jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5716817	He can definitely get better.. But he's not going to magically grow a set of balls, and learn the ability to fire the ball into tight places, with a dt coming right at him. He's never going to start wanting to win, more than he doesnt want to lose the game by throwing a pick.
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