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Old 03-29-2016, 12:06 PM   #1
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The whole BPA/need debate is often conjecture at best. What fans perceive as need and what organization's deem as need can differ. We are not privy to remaining FA interests the Chiefs may have with players. We are at the stage of free agency where many of the remaining FA's out there will be picked up after the draft when a team feels it needs to round out positions for depth.

Fans aren't stupid, and are aware of roster deficiencies, but how much of an emphasis individual teams place on need vs. BPA varies from franchise to franchise. Every GM is going to "say" they take the BPA at any and every given pick, but there are so many factors that go into evaluations of what truly constitutes your BPA: production, health/injury history, experience, measureables, character, etc.

Look at Dorsey's recent early picks:
Peters? - definite need, and arguable BPA (where as some teams stayed away because of character concerns, so for some he was not the BPA)
Ford? - arguable about immediate need, and arguable about BPA. I believe the Ford pick was based on supply/demand that draft year for pass rushers and an aging Hali consideration.
Fisher? - definite need, but at the time also merited legitimate #1 overall consideration given a weak draft class especially at the top. Not a lot of elite blue-chip talent that year or consensus prospects.

Corner this year is a need whether it be slot or #2, unless they are ready to turn Gaines and Nelson loose as starters (which could happen). The DL rotation could be shored up and when factoring contract situations, maybe a buffer against Poe and Howard could be brought in.
Personally my gut feeling says the Chiefs will go with a secondary player (Corner or safety) early given the departures of Smith/Branch/Abdullah. The DL depth in this draft should mean great talent is available later.
They just don't seem to reach for the draft. They do a good job of letting it come to them.

I agree with your post though.

It just seems alot like the year we were so badly needing a wr and ended up with Ford where everyone and their brother had us going wr.
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:39 AM   #2
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Passing on Boykin pisses me off. He signed a 1 year $840k deal with Carolina. Tied for the most INT's from the slot with Matheiu over the last 3 years.

Dorsey must have that much faith in his guys.
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:40 AM   #3
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Passing on Boykin pisses me off. He signed a 1 year $840k deal with Carolina. Tied for the most INT's from the slot with Matheiu over the last 3 years.

Dorsey must have that much faith in his guys.
Yeah, I thought that was a nice deal.

They had interest in Heyward,dunno if they're done looking or what.

Is there any decent corners still out there?
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:39 AM   #4
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IIRC, Houston held out of the entire offseason program going into 2014 so I'm not overly worried about him missing that stuff. He's smart enough and been in the game long enough with us that it shouldn't make a difference.
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:45 AM   #5
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With dorsey going to Ole Miss, wonder if Nkemdiche is on their radar?
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:54 AM   #6
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With dorsey going to Ole Miss, wonder if Nkemdiche is on their radar?
That's what I'm thinking. Maybe Treadwell though.

Nkemdiche has Dorsey written all over him.
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That's what I'm thinking. Maybe Treadwell though.

Nkemdiche has Dorsey written all over him.
I'd say it's nkemdiche. Treadwell doesn't seem to be a fit here. He doesn't run great routes and it's a workout warrior.
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:10 PM   #8
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That's what I'm thinking. Maybe Treadwell though.

Nkemdiche has Dorsey written all over him.
The guy called himself lazy at the combine. Doesn't sound like he is passionate about football to me.

Vernon Butler over this dumbass any day.
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:18 PM   #9
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The guy called himself lazy at the combine. Doesn't sound like he is passionate about football to me.

Vernon Butler over this dumbass any day.
Dorsey has no history of drafting players with work ethic issues, so that would really make Nkemdiche seem like a long shot
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:50 PM   #10
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@TerezPaylor-Dorsey on the state of the CB position: "There’s a reason why we drafted (Steven) Nelson and Phillip Gaines where we did."

Typical GM talk but I do think there is truth to this.
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:54 AM   #11
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Where does Nkemdiche fit though? With Poe, Bailey, Howard... Not a lot of snaps to go around
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Where does Nkemdiche fit though? With Poe, Bailey, Howard... Not a lot of snaps to go around
3rd downs to start. Just let him get up and go I'd imagine.
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Where does Nkemdiche fit though? With Poe, Bailey, Howard... Not a lot of snaps to go around
I don't think Dorsey cares about that. He's not drafting for next year. Poe is a FA after this season, then Howard the next, and Bailey in three years.

If he feels Nkemdiche is BPA he will take him.

As for this year, I think Nkemdiche could be used as an interior pass rusher in sub packages.
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Where does Nkemdiche fit though? With Poe, Bailey, Howard... Not a lot of snaps to go around
3-4 OLB and interior pass rush
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