Chiefs We need to extend Alex Smith - Page 55

Alex Smith 4Ever · 01-05-2014, 02:42 PM

Alex played the game of his life and he was BETRAYED by the defense

Alex Smith dropped 44 points on the Colts and somehow still lost. Alex is a hero. 44 points can win you a SUPERBOWL. What happened to the best defense in the league? They sure weren't out there tonight. You could cut all of them and it wouldn't matter. What matters is having Alex.

Jakemall · 01-09-2014, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This Urban Meyer quote is getting a ton of play it doesn't deserve, IMO.

Smith's second season in Harbaugh's system?

His YPC, YPG and INT% were all worse than in 2011.

How does YPC influence wins in comparison to a state like oh... ypa?

What does YPG as a passer mean when you have one of the better rushing teams in the NFL with the best D in the NFL?

INT% You're right...he did have more picks...almost twice as many. Yet his YPA comp% and QBR and QBR all skyrocketed.

You're reaching or trolling...not sure which.

**Mav** · 01-09-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And on cue, here come the Niner trolls, out of the walls like cockroaches.

Yeah. I mean, of course, if people who ACTUALLY watched him, try to explain something where all you did, was use stats, and its inaccurate. All of a sudden, we become TROLLS.

Boo ****ing hooooooo.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

How does YPC influence wins in comparison to a state like oh... ypa?

What does YPG as a passer mean when you have one of the better rushing teams in the NFL with the best D in the NFL?

INT% You're right...he did have more picks...almost twice as many. Yet his YPA comp% and QBR and QBR all skyrocketed.

You're reaching or trolling...not sure which.

I'm doing neither. Just pointing out the stats.

If you want to claim that his 2012 performance is "good", by all means, do so. You're just showing your bias.

It's average at best, and anyone who watches professional football realizes that. It looks better than it actually is because he was so ****ing shitty his first 5 years.

To look at those numbers and state he's absolutely going to get better, just because Urban Meyer says so?

Mind-numbingly stupid.

l4z4rd · 01-09-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Just going by what Pro Football Reference has listed:

Week 10 (against the Rams) he was knocked out halfway through the 2nd quarter with a concussion.

Week 17, Harbaugh had pity on Smith and let him play one snap which he completed a 7 yd pass.

So although it says he played 10 games, he technically only played 8.5, which changes most of his stats.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Yeah. I mean, of course, if people who ACTUALLY watched him, try to explain something where all you did, was use stats, and its inaccurate. All of a sudden, we become TROLLS.

Boo ****ing hooooooo.

Funny, I watched him all this year, and some of you want to claim he had this great season - when in fact, he had a great playoff game, a handful of solid games, and 8-9 average to below average games.

So yeah, forgive me for deeming unimportant the opinion of a few folks who scattered here over the year to pimp their favorite player.

Marcellus · 01-09-2014, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Just going by what Pro Football Reference has listed:

His QBR went up 25 points.

You are one of the guys who have said take shots and live with a few more INT's. His TD% went from 3.8% to 6%.

Fact is he was playing better in 2012 than in 2011. Its really indisputable.

Marcellus · 01-09-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm doing neither. Just pointing out the stats.

If you want to claim that his 2012 performance is "good", by all means, do so. You're just showing your bias.

It's average at best, and anyone who watches professional football realizes that. It looks better than it actually is because he was so ****ing shitty his first 5 years.

To look at those numbers and state he's absolutely going to get better, just because Urban Meyer says so?

Mind-numbingly stupid.

What?

Hammock Parties · 01-09-2014, 04:51 PM

Alex wasn't taking more shots in 2012, though. His YPC was still low and he wasn't throwing the ball down the field.

He was throwing more TDs, though, so that's an improvement.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by l4z4rd

Week 10 (against the Rams) he was knocked out halfway through the 2nd quarter with a concussion.

Week 17, Harbaugh had pity on Smith and let him play one snap which he completed a 7 yd pass.

So although it says he played 10 games, he technically only played 8.5, which changes most of his stats.

Forgive me for not going back and watching the game film to make sure he didn't miss a series here or there with a bruised vagina.

That would change his stats as well.

Parker was right - it makes no difference what someone says about your Golden Boy - it's never good enough, or there's always some excuse.

I've spent the last two days saying that I'd be OK with extending him around 5/75 as long as it was front loaded and didn't hurt our chances financially to fill holes.

But poke holes in a ridiculous Urban Meyer quote, and holy shit - the Batsignal is illuminated and y'all come running to defend your boy.

It's comical, yet sad.

**Mav** · 01-09-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Funny, I watched him all this year, and some of you want to claim he had this great season - when in fact, he had a great playoff game, a handful of solid games, and 8-9 average to below average games.

So yeah, forgive me for deeming unimportant the opinion of a few folks who scattered here over the year to pimp their favorite player.

You would have a point. If I had claimed that Alex Smith could do no wrong.

I was one of the first to CRUSH him when he played poorly. Like I said. So you can keep moving your goal posts, you used stats. You were shot down easily, and quickly, all of a sudden those who have watched him for years, are trolls.

That's your defense. What the Trolls have been telling you, is that he has been getting better each season. You didn't want to accept it.

This isn't that big of a deal in all honesty.

Its just cute. The goal post moves like the wind where you guys are concerned.

**Mav** · 01-09-2014, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Forgive me for not going back and watching the game film to make sure he didn't miss a series here or there with a bruised vagina.

That would change his stats as well.

Parker was right - it makes no difference what someone says about your Golden Boy - it's never good enough, or there's always some excuse.

I've spent the last two days saying that I'd be OK with extending him around 5/75 as long as it was front loaded and didn't hurt our chances financially to fill holes.

But poke holes in a ridiculous Urban Meyer quote, and holy shit - the Batsignal is illuminated and y'all come running to defend your boy.

It's comical, yet sad.

So, because the yardage was down, even though the attempts per game were down, the 49ers led the league in rushing, the completion percentage, the rating were all not just higher, but completely higher.

Shrugs. Im not sure that saying because his yardage was lower, he played worse.

There were other factors.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

His QBR went up 25 points.

You are one of the guys who have said take shots and live with a few more INT's. His TD% went from 3.8% to 6%.

Fact is he was playing better in 2012 than in 2011. Its really indisputable.

By the letter, sure he played "better." Fine. You got me.

But is "better" good enough?

If you knew he was going "improve" at that rate next year, (fewer YPG, YPC and more INT's) would you give him the $18M a season it's reported he could get?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

You would have a point. If I had claimed that Alex Smith could do no wrong.

I was one of the first to CRUSH him when he played poorly. Like I said. So you can keep moving your goal posts, you used stats. You were shot down easily, and quickly, all of a sudden those who have watched him for years, are trolls.

That's your defense. What the Trolls have been telling you, is that he has been getting better each season. You didn't want to accept it.

This isn't that big of a deal in all honesty.

Its just cute. The goal post moves like the wind where you guys are concerned.

All of a sudden?

You and your buddies have been trolling from the moment you were ran off your Niner boards and signed up here.

Apparently you forgot about the "reception" you earned here due to the way you presented yourself.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275294

That doesn't happen unless you stroll in here like you own the ****ing place.

Jakemall · 01-09-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

By the letter, sure he played "better." Fine. You got me.

But is "better" good enough?

If you knew he was going "improve" at that rate next year, (fewer YPG, YPC and more INT's) would you give him the $18M a season it's reported he could get?

If that comes with a 25 rating increase that'll put him at 115 for the year. I'm pretty sure that doesn't suck. In fact, only 4 QBs in history have done it. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and Nick Foles. That's reasonably good company.

If he does that, his contract will be considered the steal of the decade.

I don't anticipate that happening.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

If that comes with a 25 rating increase that'll put him at 115 for the year. I'm pretty sure that doesn't suck. In fact, only 4 QBs in history have done it. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and Nick Foles. That's reasonably good company.

If he does that, his contract will be considered the steal of the decade.

I don't anticipate that happening.

Impossible to take someone seriously when they use QB rating as a barometer of performance.

14-18 for 90 yards, 2 TD's, 0 INT's

124.5 rating.

Lost the game by 20 points.

Great day, eh?

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $760478	Alex wasn't taking more shots in 2012, though. His YPC was still low and he wasn't throwing the ball down the field. He was throwing more TDs, though, so that's an improvement.
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