KU ***** Official 2017-2018 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ***** - Page 58

saphojunkie · 09:44 AM

**** the elite 8. Final Four or bust, baby.

Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit

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lawrenceRaider · 01-10-2018, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Hasn't he only been playing organized basketball for 6 years?

Yep, and if he makes any kind of strong move, the refs whistle him for a foul. He gets shoved/grabbed constantly on rebounds with very, very few fouls called on the other team.

Doesn't help that he's literally our only big man on the floor when he's out there so it's 2 or 3 on one.

Mr. Plow · 01-10-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Ku fans are so spoiled, 1 FF the last decade is a special treat you can't just take for granted, only 40 slots were available. And we were blessed to have grabbed one

We get it. You don't like Bill Self. You don't like the conference record talk. You think that Self is a failure in the tournament. Do you have to bring it up in every. single. post.?

Prison Bitch · 01-10-2018, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

We get it. You don't like Bill Self. You don't like the conference record talk. You think that Self is a failure in the tournament. Do you have to bring it up in every. single. post.?

1. We need a rim protector
2. We are thin up front
3. What's up with Billy Preston?
4. We need to shoot a ton of 3s, but that's fools gold
5. Wow this league is fantastic again!

That's the last 50 pages and next 200. I just saved you the time since you hate redundancy

**Lzen** · 01-10-2018, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk

This is one criticism I can agree on.

I know this isn't a new thought, but with the exception of Embiid (who I'd argue is an all-NBA talent regardless), we have not developed one great big since Manning left to coach Tulsa.

I think you have to take into account that most of the great big men are one and done. Hard to develop in just one year.

**Lzen** · 01-10-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

We get it. You don't like Bill Self. You don't like the conference record talk. You think that Self is a failure in the tournament. Do you have to bring it up in every. single. post.?

Right. Hey PB, we could have hired Ernie Kent or Tom Crean. Would you have preferred that?

**Buehler445** · 01-10-2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Right. Hey PB, we could have hired Ernie Kent or Tom Crean. Would you have preferred that?

Not to divert but holy shit Tom Crean is a shit color guy. He had interesting content but it’s like there is a short to his transmitter and there are a bunch of bad packets (for you radio nerds)

saphojunkie · 01-10-2018, 02:30 PM

What's bullshit is that this is not supposed to be the team we were going to put on the court. And everyone - including Oliver Luck - knows that Preston and De Sousa dramatically change the nature of this team and raise their floor and ceiling several levels.

Mr. Plow · 01-10-2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

1. We need a rim protector
2. We are thin up front
3. What's up with Billy Preston?
4. We need to shoot a ton of 3s, but that's fools gold
5. Wow this league is fantastic again!

That's the last 50 pages and next 200. I just saved you the time since you hate redundancy

You don't come in here to talk KU basketball. You come to complain about the same stuff over and over and it's the reason you got banned from the last KU thread.

**Buehler445** · 01-10-2018, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

What's bullshit is that this is not supposed to be the team we were going to put on the court. And everyone - including Oliver Luck - knows that Preston and De Sousa dramatically change the nature of this team and raise their floor and ceiling several levels.

Plus when they were recruiting big men they can’t have though Diallo was our. He had no business declaring but did anyway.

KC_Connection · 01-10-2018, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk

My goodness...some real crybabies in here. Last I checked, we are 13-3 (3-1 B12) and ranked #12 in the country, which is probably a better record than we should have with the squad we have to put out each and every night. A win is a win, and given the limitations of the players we have this year, not a single fan should expect us to blow any team out. It's as if some of you would rather have lost to ISU last night, since we didn't beat them by 20 because they are so terrible.

It's a good thing Self doesn't actually think like this. Otherwise the program would have never become the most successful in the country for over a past decade.

Mr. Plow · 01-13-2018, 09:49 AM

De Sousa cleared, will be in uniform today.

https://twitter.com/KUHoops/status/9...225299969?s=09

George Liquor · 01-13-2018, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

De Sousa cleared, will be in uniform today.

https://twitter.com/KUHoops/status/9...225299969?s=09

excessive · 01-13-2018, 09:56 AM

http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/194479934/

If eligible, Silvio De Sousa is good to go for “short spurts,” KU’s Self says

Former IMG Academy forward Silvio De Sousa | Gregory Payan | AP

January 12, 2018
By Gary Bedore gbedore@kcstar.com

Pushed by head coach Bill Self, big man coach Norm Roberts, strength coach Andrea Hudy and other staff members, freshman Silvio De Sousa has been focused on conditioning since his first Kansas men’s basketball practice Dec. 27.

“It’s primarily running,” Self said on Friday, offering an update on the progress of De Sousa, a 6-foot-9, 245-pound recent IMG Academy graduate who has been busy on the court and in the weight room while awaiting clearance from the NCAA to play in games. That clearance did not come Friday, but Self said he still was hopeful the NCAA would clear De Sousa on Saturday morning prior to the 11 a.m. game against Kansas State. (Meanwhile there’s no news on the eligibility of Billy Preston and no timetable, Self said.)

“I made him do a drill in front of the team, which was a totally exhausting drill,” Self said of a Boot Camp-type exercise De Sousa tackled at practice Thursday. “He was all excited when he finished it. I said, ‘OK, now on the line. You’ve got to run this and this.’”

De Sousa hasn’t been overwhelmed by the prescribed up-and-back sprints, Self said.

“He knows he needs to get in better shape. He’s the first one to tell us that. It’s a big difference from high school to college,” Self said.

“When you stop and think about it, this dude is playing high school ball three weeks ago and he’s been here two weeks. I think it’s expecting too much for him to be 80 or 90 percent of what he can be in the first couple weeks. Certainly by Feb. 1, I believe that could be the case where he could be 100 percent of what he could be.”

De Sousa will be awarded minutes as soon as the NCAA deems him eligible for competition in games. He’s been cleared academically but has been waiting for the NCAA to clear his amateur status.

“I do think his conditioning is lacking. When your conditioning is not as good, I do think sometimes you pace yourself and he’s not going to play enough early on that we’re going to expect him to play 10 straight minutes. It’s going to be short spurts,” Self said.

“There’s no reason he can’t give us two to three to four minutes where his energy level is very high knowing he’s probably not going to be in much longer than that any way.”

De Sousa, from Angola, was Rivals.com’s No. 25-rated player in the Class of 2018. He is ready for major-college basketball, Self said.

“He’s been with us long enough I’d trust to play him in a game. I don’t know if I’d trust him to play in the last three or four minutes,” Self said. “Play in a close game? Midway through the second half? Absolutely, no question.

“When he and Doke (7-footer Udoka Azubuike) are in there together, that would be OK. If he and Mitch (Lightfoot, 6-8) were in there together, that would be fine. He could still play the 5. Mitch can play the 4. It depends on the situation. A late-game situation first game in? I don’t think I’d put that on anybody.”

KU sophomore guard Malik Newman was asked about De Sousa’s shooting ability.

“He is not a good shooter right now, but he can shoot it. He’s made a couple that we were like, ‘Wow, he made that?’” Newman said Friday.

“I would say that. I could also say that about Malik too,” Self said. “We could say that about Devonté (Graham) at times or Lagerald (Vick) at times. He’s not going to play to making an 18-footer. That’s not what we’re going to play to. Around the basket I would think Malik would say his shooting is much better. He does have a nice touch, no doubt about it. But expecting him to come in and be a pick and pop guy and stretch the defense from behind the arc, I don’t think that’s going to happen. Will he be that? Absolutely. I don’t think he’s ready to do that after two weeks.”

Self said it seems De Sousa has been with the team more than just a couple weeks.

“I actually do feel we know him pretty well. We’ve spent a lot of time with him,” Self said. “His attitude is unbelievable because he’s doing two or three times more than everybody else every day whether it be going to Watkins (Health Center) and getting certain tests done or the extra physicals or meeting with compliance two hours a day to finalize it (eligibility). I think his attitude has been absolutely terrific.”

He not only works with the coaches, but with strength coach Hudy.

“Andrea will work with him after every practice, whether it’s to do extra in the weight room where he’s primarily doing what his teammates do,” said Self, who hopes to soon add another big or two to the rotation. Forward Billy Preston also is waiting on clearance from the NCAA.

“I see good potential,” Self said. “I see mainly when the ball is in the air who goes and gets it? I see mainly that being the biggest addition. Where we’ve got to figure it out is how are we going to guard. We’ve been switching everything. Now we obviously won’t be able to do that quite as much with two bigs in.”

**BigRedChief** · 01-13-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

De Sousa cleared, will be in uniform today.

https://twitter.com/KUHoops/status/9...225299969?s=09

Cool. That gives him 6 weeks to get up to elite college level from his high school level before crunch time.

And I wonder if Prestons draft status is being effected by his long absence?

If you have a car, you need to make sure you have some kind of paperwork showing who owns the car, registration etc. with you at all times. Thats the law. As a Div. 1 athlete, you should know this more than anyone.

**PHOG** · 01-13-2018, 10:04 AM

Good news.

Now come on NCAA, what about Preston?

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excessive Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $9556885	http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/194479934/ If eligible, Silvio De Sousa is good to go for “short spurts,” KU’s Self says Former IMG Academy forward Silvio De Sousa \| Gregory Payan \| AP January 12, 2018 By Gary Bedore gbedore@kcstar.com Pushed by head coach Bill Self, big man coach Norm Roberts, strength coach Andrea Hudy and other staff members, freshman Silvio De Sousa has been focused on conditioning since his first Kansas men’s basketball practice Dec. 27. “It’s primarily running,” Self said on Friday, offering an update on the progress of De Sousa, a 6-foot-9, 245-pound recent IMG Academy graduate who has been busy on the court and in the weight room while awaiting clearance from the NCAA to play in games. That clearance did not come Friday, but Self said he still was hopeful the NCAA would clear De Sousa on Saturday morning prior to the 11 a.m. game against Kansas State. (Meanwhile there’s no news on the eligibility of Billy Preston and no timetable, Self said.) “I made him do a drill in front of the team, which was a totally exhausting drill,” Self said of a Boot Camp-type exercise De Sousa tackled at practice Thursday. “He was all excited when he finished it. I said, ‘OK, now on the line. You’ve got to run this and this.’” De Sousa hasn’t been overwhelmed by the prescribed up-and-back sprints, Self said. “He knows he needs to get in better shape. He’s the first one to tell us that. It’s a big difference from high school to college,” Self said. “When you stop and think about it, this dude is playing high school ball three weeks ago and he’s been here two weeks. I think it’s expecting too much for him to be 80 or 90 percent of what he can be in the first couple weeks. Certainly by Feb. 1, I believe that could be the case where he could be 100 percent of what he could be.” De Sousa will be awarded minutes as soon as the NCAA deems him eligible for competition in games. He’s been cleared academically but has been waiting for the NCAA to clear his amateur status. “I do think his conditioning is lacking. When your conditioning is not as good, I do think sometimes you pace yourself and he’s not going to play enough early on that we’re going to expect him to play 10 straight minutes. It’s going to be short spurts,” Self said. “There’s no reason he can’t give us two to three to four minutes where his energy level is very high knowing he’s probably not going to be in much longer than that any way.” De Sousa, from Angola, was Rivals.com’s No. 25-rated player in the Class of 2018. He is ready for major-college basketball, Self said. “He’s been with us long enough I’d trust to play him in a game. I don’t know if I’d trust him to play in the last three or four minutes,” Self said. “Play in a close game? Midway through the second half? Absolutely, no question. “When he and Doke (7-footer Udoka Azubuike) are in there together, that would be OK. If he and Mitch (Lightfoot, 6-8) were in there together, that would be fine. He could still play the 5. Mitch can play the 4. It depends on the situation. A late-game situation first game in? I don’t think I’d put that on anybody.” KU sophomore guard Malik Newman was asked about De Sousa’s shooting ability. “He is not a good shooter right now, but he can shoot it. He’s made a couple that we were like, ‘Wow, he made that?’” Newman said Friday. “I would say that. I could also say that about Malik too,” Self said. “We could say that about Devonté (Graham) at times or Lagerald (Vick) at times. He’s not going to play to making an 18-footer. That’s not what we’re going to play to. Around the basket I would think Malik would say his shooting is much better. He does have a nice touch, no doubt about it. But expecting him to come in and be a pick and pop guy and stretch the defense from behind the arc, I don’t think that’s going to happen. Will he be that? Absolutely. I don’t think he’s ready to do that after two weeks.” Self said it seems De Sousa has been with the team more than just a couple weeks. “I actually do feel we know him pretty well. We’ve spent a lot of time with him,” Self said. “His attitude is unbelievable because he’s doing two or three times more than everybody else every day whether it be going to Watkins (Health Center) and getting certain tests done or the extra physicals or meeting with compliance two hours a day to finalize it (eligibility). I think his attitude has been absolutely terrific.” He not only works with the coaches, but with strength coach Hudy. “Andrea will work with him after every practice, whether it’s to do extra in the weight room where he’s primarily doing what his teammates do,” said Self, who hopes to soon add another big or two to the rotation. Forward Billy Preston also is waiting on clearance from the NCAA. “I see good potential,” Self said. “I see mainly when the ball is in the air who goes and gets it? I see mainly that being the biggest addition. Where we’ve got to figure it out is how are we going to guard. We’ve been switching everything. Now we obviously won’t be able to do that quite as much with two bigs in.” __________________ "I've been known to party some, but I ain't ever hurt no one. Been ashamed of things I've done, especially when, especially when, especially when I'm stoned." D.A.C.
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