Chiefs Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson? - Page 6

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 07:35 AM

I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that.

I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road.

I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy.

In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career.

Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green.

Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?

Tiger's Fan · 03-03-2009, 01:51 PM

Len Dawson sucks, after all, we didn't draft him.

Chiefnj2 · 03-03-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Uh, 2001?

That was more than a "few" quarters.

Snoop, Parker and Alexander had great careers after 2001.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-03-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Another system QB who can't do jackshit without a Hall of Fame line blocking for him?

No thanks.

Mmm...wisdom.

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

You did? WTF is this, Christmas?

Yes. In September. Way to be on the ball, there Reero!

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Patriots would have bitch slapped that team in Foxboro even if we had beaten the Colts.

Actually, the Chiefs would have matched up well with the Pats at the time. I am not saying they would have won, but they would have at least made it interesting.

**Rausch** · 03-03-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Actually, the Chiefs would have matched up well with the Pats at the time. I am not saying they would have won, but they would have at least made it interesting.

Didn't we lose to them in OT like the year before?...

MadMax · 03-03-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I do. In fact, I think he will be a good player in this scheme. The great news is that we get to find out in a few months just how 'reeruned' I am.

Eeeeew, fun times ahead for you..

I predict he will be what he is, a not so good QB. I hope I am wrong.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-03-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

Eeeeew, fun times ahead for you..

I predict he will be what he is, a not so good QB. I hope I am wrong.

I feel like a kid waiting for the latest gaming console for Christmas.

In August.

MadMax · 03-03-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I feel like a kid waiting for the latest gaming console for Christmas.

In August.

Should be very entertaining here

I can't wait.

htismaqe · 03-03-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Snoop, Parker and Alexander had great careers after 2001.

Chris Thomas FTW!

JohnnyV13 · 03-03-2009, 03:34 PM

Wow...don't you get how clever Gretz is? He's hoping to make us THINK Cassel is the next Len Dawson by saying he hopes the fans don't think that.

The Buddha · 03-03-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Wow...don't you get how clever Gretz is? He's hoping to make us THINK Cassel is the next Len Dawson by saying he hopes the fans don't think that.

This is classic psychology. Like saying that I am not as good looking as Johnny Depp... Now, you're already associating the two of us, whereas before, there was absolutely NO correlation whatsoever.

milkman · 03-04-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Wow...don't you get how clever Gretz is? He's hoping to make us THINK Cassel is the next Len Dawson by saying he hopes the fans don't think that.

From a physical standpoint, the comparison has merit.

Neither had/have exceptional arms, both were/are prototypical pocket passers who had/have enough mobility to escape the rush.

Both were/are accurate in the short to intermediate passing game.

Lenny threw a better deep ball, though, and he was the unquestioned leader of his Chiefs teams.
He also was as cool in pressure situations as any QB to ever play the game.

The fact that both were backups for years before moving to the Chiefs and getting the chance to be the team's starter also leads Gretz to that comparison.

Cassel has a long way to go before the comparison can gain any legs.

**TimeForWasp** · 04-29-2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

From a physical standpoint, the comparison has merit.

Neither had/have exceptional arms, both were/are prototypical pocket passers who had/have enough mobility to escape the rush.

Both were/are accurate in the short to intermediate passing game.

Lenny threw a better deep ball, though, and he was the unquestioned leader of his Chiefs teams.
He also was as cool in pressure situations as any QB to ever play the game.

The fact that both were backups for years before moving to the Chiefs and getting the chance to be the team's starter also leads Gretz to that comparison.

Cassel has a long way to go before the comparison can gain any legs.

Good point

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-29-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I really don't know. I just hope we improve this D, so Cassel can lead this team to some wins.

LOL

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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson? I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that. I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road. I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy. In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career. Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green. Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?
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