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chiefs1111 · 08:13 AM

Braylon Edwards traded to the Jets Mort on Mike and Mike just broke it

**The Franchise** · 10-07-2009, 09:34 AM

Dude....no one is calling for Pioli and Haley to be fired. Seriously...some people need to understand. We're only questioning Pioli and Haley's offseason moves. Fixing the offensive line should have been priority #1. It doesn't matter if you have Kyle Boller or Peyton Manning as your QB....if you can't protect him....he'll play like complete shit.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on trading for Cassel. If he thinks he has it...then fine. But you don't trade for a QB...sign him to a $60 million dollar deal and then don't give him any blockers or weapons. It's ****ing reeruned.

Goff and Niswanger wouldn't start for ANY team in the league....yet they are our starting center and right guard.

**Reaper16** · 10-07-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Yeah I don't think Pioli and Cassel are tied to the hip like some others think.

Rewarding a player with 60 million bucks for throwing a ton of six yard passes to Welker and RBs doesn't sound like a tied-at-the-hip situation. It sounds like a glued-at-the-hip situation. Soldered even.

nychief · 10-07-2009, 09:38 AM

obviously rhetoric is not one of your strong points.

what we were asking for was...change. we got it. now does that preclude questioning? no. but the amount of bitching and back and forth (trade gonzo! I miss gonzo! trade JA! I miss JA. draft! free agents! character! why can't eric hick go to the lockeroom! bryalon edwards?) going on is pretty comical.

we have to be patient, and hope SP has this under control soon. quite frankly the team was a tire fire when he arrived... it is gonna take awhile. this team is supposed to be built from the bottom up... lets see what they can do with a some time... again, the losing is painful - i understand.

philfree · 10-07-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Rewarding a player with 60 million bucks for throwing a ton of six yard passes to Welker and RBs doesn't sound like a tied-at-the-hip situation. It sounds like a glued-at-the-hip situation. Soldered even.

Two years down the road Cassel's contract won't seem so binding. Seems like alot now but the way salaries and guaranteed money are escalating in the NFL I don't think it is.

PhilFree

nychief · 10-07-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Rewarding a player with 60 million bucks for throwing a ton of six yard passes to Welker and RBs doesn't sound like a tied-at-the-hip situation. It sounds like a glued-at-the-hip situation. Soldered even.

it the nfl... nothing is permanent. two years - if he is terrible - it is not so binding...

**Reaper16** · 10-07-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

it the nfl... nothing is permanent. two years - if he is terrible - it is not so binding...

But Pioli had Cassel for two years (this season and the next if the CBA doesn't get renewed) without having to ink a new deal in the first place.

KCUnited · 10-07-2009, 09:49 AM

The opportunity cost of trading for Cassel can possibly outweigh the 60 million.

DBOSHO · 10-07-2009, 09:58 AM

to be fair, i dont think jesus christ himself could forsee our line being THIS bad.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-07-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

to be fair, i dont think jesus christ himself could forsee our line being THIS bad.

I guess 2008 Chiefs games were blacked out in Jesus' viewing area?

**The Bad Guy** · 10-07-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

obviously rhetoric is not one of your strong points.

what we were asking for was...change. we got it. now does that preclude questioning? no. but the amount of bitching and back and forth (trade gonzo! I miss gonzo! trade JA! I miss JA. draft! free agents! character! why can't eric hick go to the lockeroom! bryalon edwards?) going on is pretty comical.

we have to be patient, and hope SP has this under control soon. quite frankly the team was a tire fire when he arrived... it is gonna take awhile. this team is supposed to be built from the bottom up... lets see what they can do with a some time... again, the losing is painful - i understand.

For the millionth freaking time. We all knew we were going to lose. I thought this would be a 4-12 team with a lot of luck.

It's the "foundation" that should have been built this year that's in question. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Rooster · 10-07-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This right 53 is going to be as popular as Carl's 5-year plan. I can feel it.

I hope you're wrong.

Sure-Oz · 10-07-2009, 10:21 AM

I sure as hell hope Pioli makes some solid moves this offseason and has a decent draft...i dont want a dayton moore running the chiefs

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-07-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Pioli is going to have to have one hell of an off-season for me to be as excited as I was when he was hired.

He's really made some horrid decisions here.

I don't have a problem paying Casssel. But paying him when he has no receivers, no TE, no line is like putting a muscle car engine in an el camino that doesn't run.

Going to the 3-4 and hiring Clancy freaking Pendergast is another nonsense move. We have no linebackers. No nose guard. But yes, let's go round peg square hole all over again.

The right 53 can lick my taint.

I think you finally understand the frustration I've had with this franchise since May.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-07-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I would definitely agree, but Haley doesn't give a shit about contract status. That's the only reason why I would disagree because of Todd's history with QBs.

No offense Bro, but Todd Haley has NO ****ING history with QB's.

He didn't call the plays in 2007. It was clear that Warner would be the man because Whisenhunt installed a vertical passing game.

Last year, Haley was allowed to call plays. But do you think that there was any chance that Warner was going to be pulled in favor of Leinart?

Haley is what he is: A n00b.

tk13 · 10-07-2009, 10:36 AM

I think people are just frustrated. The Jets might have won this deal but I don't think Pioli should be burned at the cross for not making it. I don't know, it's just not that bad. I wasn't blown away by it. Maybe it will be in the end, who knows.

I just don't think we're in any position to be trading multiple draft picks away. Especially when there's a chance we might have the first pick in every round. Unless you find a really good offensive lineman or safety or something. But even then, it might not be worth it. I'm tired of everybody building this team from outside-in... Carl did the same thing. We need an offensive line, a nose tackle, MLB's, safeties.

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10-07-2009, 09:34 AM	#76
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2055047	Dude....no one is calling for Pioli and Haley to be fired. Seriously...some people need to understand. We're only questioning Pioli and Haley's offseason moves. Fixing the offensive line should have been priority #1. It doesn't matter if you have Kyle Boller or Peyton Manning as your QB....if you can't protect him....he'll play like complete shit. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on trading for Cassel. If he thinks he has it...then fine. But you don't trade for a QB...sign him to a $60 million dollar deal and then don't give him any blockers or weapons. It's ****ing reeruned. Goff and Niswanger wouldn't start for ANY team in the league....yet they are our starting center and right guard.
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10-07-2009, 09:38 AM	#78
nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $5329466	obviously rhetoric is not one of your strong points. what we were asking for was...change. we got it. now does that preclude questioning? no. but the amount of bitching and back and forth (trade gonzo! I miss gonzo! trade JA! I miss JA. draft! free agents! character! why can't eric hick go to the lockeroom! bryalon edwards?) going on is pretty comical. we have to be patient, and hope SP has this under control soon. quite frankly the team was a tire fire when he arrived... it is gonna take awhile. this team is supposed to be built from the bottom up... lets see what they can do with a some time... again, the losing is painful - i understand. __________________ Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
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10-07-2009, 10:36 AM	#90
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1987500	I think people are just frustrated. The Jets might have won this deal but I don't think Pioli should be burned at the cross for not making it. I don't know, it's just not that bad. I wasn't blown away by it. Maybe it will be in the end, who knows. I just don't think we're in any position to be trading multiple draft picks away. Especially when there's a chance we might have the first pick in every round. Unless you find a really good offensive lineman or safety or something. But even then, it might not be worth it. I'm tired of everybody building this team from outside-in... Carl did the same thing. We need an offensive line, a nose tackle, MLB's, safeties.
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