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Old 10-07-2009, 09:33 AM   #1
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I remember Pioli saying something of the line as "If our QB works out excellent, but I'm not afraid of admitting a mistake if he doesn't"
Yeah I don't think Pioli and Cassel are tied to the hip like some others think. It's certainly not in Haleys history.

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Old 10-07-2009, 09:37 AM   #2
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Yeah I don't think Pioli and Cassel are tied to the hip like some others think.
Rewarding a player with 60 million bucks for throwing a ton of six yard passes to Welker and RBs doesn't sound like a tied-at-the-hip situation. It sounds like a glued-at-the-hip situation. Soldered even.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:41 AM   #3
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Rewarding a player with 60 million bucks for throwing a ton of six yard passes to Welker and RBs doesn't sound like a tied-at-the-hip situation. It sounds like a glued-at-the-hip situation. Soldered even.
Two years down the road Cassel's contract won't seem so binding. Seems like alot now but the way salaries and guaranteed money are escalating in the NFL I don't think it is.

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Old 10-07-2009, 09:43 AM   #4
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Rewarding a player with 60 million bucks for throwing a ton of six yard passes to Welker and RBs doesn't sound like a tied-at-the-hip situation. It sounds like a glued-at-the-hip situation. Soldered even.
it the nfl... nothing is permanent. two years - if he is terrible - it is not so binding...
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:44 AM   #5
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it the nfl... nothing is permanent. two years - if he is terrible - it is not so binding...
But Pioli had Cassel for two years (this season and the next if the CBA doesn't get renewed) without having to ink a new deal in the first place.
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But Pioli had Cassel for two years (this season and the next if the CBA doesn't get renewed) without having to ink a new deal in the first place.
This is a point that is overlooked: Those 2 years would cost us the same as what we actually guaranteed him. if he doesnt work out 28 mil if it does work we got a good deal
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:39 AM   #7
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This is a point that is overlooked: Those 2 years would cost us the same as what we actually guaranteed him. if he doesnt work out 28 mil if it does work we got a good deal
I hadn't considered that. Good point.
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I hadn't considered that. Good point.
and IMO he was going to get two years worth of a shot anyway. Isnt a 2nd round pick at least deserving of that?
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I hadn't considered that. Good point.
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This is a point that is overlooked: Those 2 years would cost us the same as what we actually guaranteed him. if he doesnt work out 28 mil if it does work we got a good deal
Do you really think they'll cut him loose after 2 seasons if he's not performing?

I'd be shocked if he's here any less than 4.

People can say all we're on the hook for is the $30M guaranteed, but that's if we actually cut him loose.

If he's on the roster, he gets his salary. And like I said, I'd be shocked if they were to cut him before that contract expires - or at least until he got most of it.
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Do you really think they'll cut him loose after 2 seasons if he's not performing?

I'd be shocked if he's here any less than 4.

People can say all we're on the hook for is the $30M guaranteed, but that's if we actually cut him loose.

If he's on the roster, he gets his salary. And like I said, I'd be shocked if they were to cut him before that contract expires - or at least until he got most of it.
YES i do, what would make you think otherwise looking at pioli/patriots past history, and yeah if we cut him or he doesnt make the performance clauses, of which there are probably some, it is the SAME as if we had franchised him 2x. So whats the big deal that we signed him long term? The financial hit is the same either way.
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