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Old 10-26-2010, 06:22 PM  
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WTF? Matt Cassel is the #1 rated QB in the NFL the last 5 games? True?
Saw a post on another website that this was a fact. Is it? Inquiring minds want to know.

Edit: Found the source. A Chiefs tweet.


QB Matt Cassel has a 108.9 passer rating over his last four games - the best mark of any QB in the league over that span (min. 100 atts).
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:02 PM   #76
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I don't give a rat's ass if we run the ball 60 times a game, I want to have confidence that the QB can make plays when it comes to him needing to make plays, and we haven't seen any evidence to suggest that he can do that.

I'm talking about late game situations when he needs to make a pass to win, or seal a win.
Well maybe we will find out if he has what it takes in the remaining 10 games... Cause right now, we havent had that situation yet...

And lets not drag Houston into the discussion.... The Defense totally shit the bed and Haley/Weis decided to be super cute instead of winning the football game.

So as much as I would hate to be in that situation, I would rather know if he can or cant before postseason begins.
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:15 PM   #77
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Well maybe we will find out if he has what it takes in the remaining 10 games... Cause right now, we havent had that situation yet...

And lets not drag Houston into the discussion.... The Defense totally shit the bed and Haley/Weis decided to be super cute instead of winning the football game.

So as much as I would hate to be in that situation, I would rather know if he can or cant before postseason begins.
Houston does get dragged into this, because even with the defense shitting the bed, Cassel had a chance to seal that win on a third and two pass play (which you seem to think was "cute", but the Chiefs had been stuffed on running plays in short yardage situations consistently all day), and he shit the bed.
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:22 PM   #78
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The only game that I can remember Cassel making a play in a close game against a good team to put us in position to win was against Dallas last year when he threw that TD pass to Bowe to send the game to overtime.

Oh yeah, he shit the bed in overtime. Defense got him the ball on the 50 and Succop was absolute money from even beyond 50 last year meaning all he had to do was get us 15 yards or so.

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Old 10-27-2010, 09:25 PM   #79
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Houston does get dragged into this, because even with the defense shitting the bed, Cassel had a chance to seal that win on a third and two pass play (which you seem to think was "cute", but the Chiefs had been stuffed on running plays in short yardage situations consistently all day), and he shit the bed.
Yes it was way to "cute" for that time in the game... along with the TE breaking the route off running backwards down the field... It was fail from the word go....

And we werent getting stuffed all day on the short runs, We ran a few 4 and shorts during the game and converted them, IIRC.... I Have the game on the Tivo, I could go back and count up how many we did convert if need to...

But to run something that required a pass across the field, with your TE running backwards, was just way to cute...

We have before that game and during that game completed some key 3rd downs that didnt involve some trickery or backwards running TEs...

Anyway, we still have 10 games to see what he has, at some point we will need him to deliver, Can he? Will he? I dont know, nobody but the Chiefs coaching staff and Cassel know...

We will just speculate and try to form opinions as fact...
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:26 PM   #80
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The only game that I can remember Cassel making a play in a close game against a good team to put us in position to win was against Dallas last year when he threw that TD pass to Bowe to send the game to overtime.

Oh yeah, he shit the bed in overtime. Defense got him the ball on the 50 and Succop was absolute money from even beyond 50 last year meaning all he had to do was get us 15 yards or so.

If the coach would of put in Croyle 4th qtr, We would of won, no doubt, no doubt in my mind... Croyle can throw a pig skin a qtr mile... /Uncle Rico.
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Old 10-27-2010, 11:04 PM   #81
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Houston does get dragged into this, because even with the defense shitting the bed, Cassel had a chance to seal that win on a third and two pass play (which you seem to think was "cute", but the Chiefs had been stuffed on running plays in short yardage situations consistently all day), and he shit the bed.
Yep.

For all the shit the defense has gotten over that loss, no one wants to talk about the fact they were on the field for all but 55 seconds of the last 7 minutes of the game.

3 play, 8 yard drives consuming 55 seconds doesn't exactly help the defense.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:38 AM   #82
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Yep.

For all the shit the defense has gotten over that loss, no one wants to talk about the fact they were on the field for all but 55 seconds of the last 7 minutes of the game.

3 play, 8 yard drives consuming 55 seconds doesn't exactly help the defense.
Cassel had one throw...he blew it, sure, but it's not all that uncommon. He had been completing third downs all day and got poor protection on this particular play.

Brady and the Pats had 4 downs against the Chargers and almost blew the game. Rivers was in a situation where he needed just one more first down against the Raiders and lost the game. Your beloved Rodgers, at home against a rival in a huge game, couldn't hold the ball against the Vikings and was 1 foot away from blowing the game. And while these guys have "done it before", Cassel will get more opportunities now that he's on a team capable of winning.

Stop being so irrational. That game was on the D. Go ahead and label me a "ballwasher"---a label that shouldn't exist on cp--- but I've stated my opinion on Cassel numerous times and it's not a good one. This doesn't mean he shouldn't get some credit (and for more than just protecting the ball). I think his ceiling just may be a bit higher than I thought around week 2 or so.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:20 AM   #83
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Yep.

For all the shit the defense has gotten over that loss, no one wants to talk about the fact they were on the field for all but 55 seconds of the last 7 minutes of the game.3 play, 8 yard drives consuming 55 seconds doesn't exactly help the defense.
The Chiefs offense had scored on the previous 4 drives for 24 points. All they needed was one stop out of the D in the 4th to win that game, but go ahead and blame Cassel for the loss.
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Since I've given up on him Cassels play has improved. Therefore from now on I will continue to say "Cassel sucks". He'll probably make the Pro Bowl.
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The only game that I can remember Cassel making a play in a close game against a good team to put us in position to win was against Dallas last year when he threw that TD pass to Bowe to send the game to overtime.

Oh yeah, he shit the bed in overtime. Defense got him the ball on the 50 and Succop was absolute money from even beyond 50 last year meaning all he had to do was get us 15 yards or so.
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The Chiefs offense had scored on the previous 4 drives for 24 points. All they needed was one stop out of the D in the 4th to win that game, but go ahead and blame Cassel for the loss.
hey, resting while your offense puts up 25 first downs can wear your defense out.
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hey, resting while your offense puts up 25 first downs can wear your defense out.
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Cassel had one throw...he blew it, sure, but it's not all that uncommon. He had been completing third downs all day and got poor protection on this particular play.

Brady and the Pats had 4 downs against the Chargers and almost blew the game. Rivers was in a situation where he needed just one more first down against the Raiders and lost the game. Your beloved Rodgers, at home against a rival in a huge game, couldn't hold the ball against the Vikings and was 1 foot away from blowing the game. And while these guys have "done it before", Cassel will get more opportunities now that he's on a team capable of winning.

Stop being so irrational. That game was on the D. Go ahead and label me a "ballwasher"---a label that shouldn't exist on cp--- but I've stated my opinion on Cassel numerous times and it's not a good one. This doesn't mean he shouldn't get some credit (and for more than just protecting the ball). I think his ceiling just may be a bit higher than I thought around week 2 or so.
It's Ok if Rivers or Brady miss throws.
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I think his ceiling just may be a bit higher than I thought around week 2 or so.
IMO, his ceiling is this. Which was what I thought it was.
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IMO, his ceiling is this. Which was what I thought it was.
You thought he could be the highest rated passer in the league for a 4 week span? Interesting, I was never that optimistic.
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