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View Poll Results: Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? (pick up to three)
Mahomes has regressed 21 12.35%
Our RBs are JAGs 26 15.29%
The OTs aren't holding up 8 4.71%
We have no WR2 28 16.47%
Hill can't get open against Cover 2 7 4.12%
Andy has lost his touch 21 12.35%
EB sucks at calling plays 19 11.18%
The DL just plain sucks 76 44.71%
Chris Jones should never have been moved to DE 36 21.18%
Frank Clark's salary is weighing us down 32 18.82%
We have no legit CBs 15 8.82%
Our LBs can't stop anything. 66 38.82%
Daniel Sorensen. Enough said. 61 35.88%
They refuse to play Thornhill 17 10.00%
Teams have solved Spags' defense 35 20.59%
Veach sucks 12 7.06%
Create your own adventure! (add in the thread) 13 7.65%
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:49 AM   #1
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Lots of reasons cited here that are valid. As bad as he’s been in the past, Peter King brought up a valid point that has been covered repeatedly here at CP:

Go back to draft day 2020 and think of the Clyde Edwards-Helaire pick. He’s been a B player. Imagine if that pick had been...Trevon Diggs
No...I don't believe I will.

Oof.

Diggs looks absolutely unreal out there right now. I've really not see a stretch like this since peak Revis. He's probably not that good, but he's playing out of his damn mind at the moment.
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:57 AM   #2
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Its a perfect storm of all of the above if were being honest.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:10 AM   #3
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:18 AM   #4
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With so many problems, Andy and the coaching staff need to be looked at as the primary issue.

Opposing teams/coaches have been actively developing schemes and acquiring personnel to beat the Chiefs and Andy and his coaching staff have not being able to adjust or respond at this point.

This is especially true on offense with the inability to effectively counter the Cover 2 looks designed to make the Chiefs drive the field rather than giving up big plays.

Mahomes also deserves some of the blame with the offense's struggles against the two deep safety defenses because he's giving up on plays too quickly and reverting to backyard ball which messes up the timing of the intermediate passing game.
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Old 10-11-2021, 04:31 PM   #5
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With so many problems, Andy and the coaching staff need to be looked at as the primary issue.

Opposing teams/coaches have been actively developing schemes and acquiring personnel to beat the Chiefs and Andy and his coaching staff have not being able to adjust or respond at this point.

This is especially true on offense with the inability to effectively counter the Cover 2 looks designed to make the Chiefs drive the field rather than giving up big plays.

Mahomes also deserves some of the blame with the offense's struggles against the two deep safety defenses because he's giving up on plays too quickly and reverting to backyard ball which messes up the timing of the intermediate passing game.
My take for what it's worth.

1)Mahomes is off kilter. Several times he has flat out missed the pass to open receivers this season. Combine that with turn overs, disaster.

2) Defense flat out sucks. But I agree, last year, though, we'd just outscore them, this ain't last year.

3) The coaches are still ultimately to blame. THEY need to find out what is wrong with Mahomes. Find out what plays work in the 2 deep safety defenses. Figure out our defense.

Andy is a great coach, Beinemy is a great coach. I trust them...they gotta fix it.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:19 AM   #6
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:23 AM   #7
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****ing idiots are actually voting for/blaming Mahomes.

God you pathetic Patriot fan douchebags.

Mahomes is NOT the reason this team sucks.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:25 AM   #8
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****ing idiots are actually voting for/blaming Mahomes.

God you pathetic Patriot fan douchebags.

Mahomes is NOT the reason this team sucks.
Do you think Mahomes looked comfortable last night?
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:34 AM   #9
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Do you think Mahomes looked comfortable last night?
No, but I think Mahomes is being dragged down by his shitty team-mates.

Mahomes 1 bad game is not a top 3 reason why this team sucks.
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Old 10-11-2021, 12:03 PM   #10
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No, but I think Mahomes is being dragged down by his shitty team-mates.

Mahomes 1 bad game is not a top 3 reason why this team sucks.
Good thing I picked way more than three then
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Everyone had it all wrong when they said that running the ball and keeping Mahomes on the sideline was the way to beat them. It’s making the Chiefs offense take 12 plays to drive down the field. More chances for mistakes and less drives overall.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:53 AM   #15
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Everyone had it all wrong when they said that running the ball and keeping Mahomes on the sideline was the way to beat them. It’s making the Chiefs offense take 12 plays to drive down the field. More chances for mistakes and less drives overall.
The Eagles didn't do very well with that strategy. I guess you could argue Baltimore and the Chargers did because of the turnovers. The Bills just played better than these other defenses. They actually stopped KC from progressing, even before the turnovers. The strategy itself is sound though. If this team learns discipline with penalties and ball security, they can adjust.

The Catch-22 for opposition is that longer drives means more time for Mahomes on the field. Before, teams wanted to keep the ball away from him. Not give him longer drives. The Chiefs yesterday ran many more plays than Buffalo. The execution was the issue.
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