Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

The difference in DVOA between the Ravens and Chiefs is the same as the difference between the Chiefs and Jets.

And the difference between playoff Patrick Mahomes and any of the QBs the Ravens defense has faced is the same as the difference between a filet mignon and a filet-o-fish.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

And the difference between playoff Patrick Mahomes and any of the QBs the Ravens defense has faced is the same as the difference between a filet mignon and a filet-o-fish.

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

How is it biased though? The best teams the Ravens best didn't have an elite QB or one that was healthy. Not knocking the season ya'll have had but the facts are the facts. And when the loses come against Minchew, Pickett and a very injured Warson, then it's something to look at for sure.

Sure, I suppose there are kernels of truth in all of that. But on the whole, the Ravens had one of the most dominating regular seasons of all time. They played a quality schedule and dominated it. But in the end, you might be right that it might not mean anything because Patrick Mahomes exists!

[RollChiefsRoll]

Originally Posted by Johnny8

I actually think I've been really balanced here, so unsure where this is coming from. But yeah, is it irritating that all AA QBs are stereotyped as the same? Sure is. So when I see the same nonsense, I'm going to call it out, because that's what it is.

I can still have normal cross-talk and share objective opinions are also call out bullshit. Those two don't impact one another.

No, it’s just a lazy, dumb, childish failure to actually engage in the debate. Why don’t you address the point and explain why it’s unfair to compare Hurts’s game to Jackson’s game (it’s not) by, you know, actually talking about football rather than lobbing stupid accusations of racist stereotyping?

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Johnny8

I actually think I've been really balanced here, so unsure where this is coming from. But yeah, is it irritating that all AA QBs are stereotyped as the same? Sure is. So when I see the same nonsense, I'm going to call it out, because that's what it is.

I can still have normal cross-talk and share objective opinions are also call out bullshit. Those two don't impact one another.

It seemed like you were trying, and I don’t want to discourage that. But a comment like the one we’re referring to coming from an opposing fan on another fanbase’s message board is never going to fly. And I’m not opining on the substance of what you said at all; just the nature of being a visitor on another team’s forum. Go Ravens.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Johnny8

I actually think I've been really balanced here, so unsure where this is coming from. But yeah, is it irritating that all AA QBs are stereotyped as the same? Sure is. So when I see the same nonsense, I'm going to call it out, because that's what it is.

I can still have normal cross-talk and share objective opinions are also call out bullshit. Those two don't impact one another.

Lol don't try that bs here when you're on a forum of a team who also has a black QB bro please stop!!..Jalen from last year and Lamar's numbers this year are virtually the same so stop whining

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Well given that the Ravens have already demolished both of the potential NFC representatives in the Super Bowl, I feel confident that this week is the biggest hurdle.

Regular season doesn't equal the playoffs.

Funny, I thought last Sunday was our biggest hurdle to make it to the big game.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

There’s a very colorable argument that this is the best team Mahomes has ever faced. And it’s on the road in the AFC title game. But hey, if it makes you feel better to act like that’s “not even close” to the biggest obstacle he has had short of an actual Super Bowl, then knock yourself out; I’m sure Patrick Mahomes himself isn’t big timing the Ravens.

Being down 24-0 was a big task. Playing the Bills with Josh Allen and the #1 Defense was a big task. We an add in Patrick's ankle last postseason and argue those were big task. You are right, Sunday will be a big task, but just another in line of big task during his career. This may have more emphasis as it is on the road. However, thank God Pat looks at each of these playoff games as his biggest obstacle and refused to be beaten. He can be beaten, he just makes it awfully hard...

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Baltimore, you guys keep clinging to DVOA… that’s your right

I’ll keep remembering that Patrick Mahomes’ playoff career stat line is that of an MVP.

His numbers in playoff games alone would make him the unanimous winner of the award if lined up against this year’s options. Games against nothing but good to great playoff teams.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

There’s a very colorable argument that this is the best team Mahomes has ever faced. And it’s on the road in the AFC title game. But hey, if it makes you feel better to act like that’s “not even close” to the biggest obstacle he has had short of an actual Super Bowl, then knock yourself out; I’m sure Patrick Mahomes himself isn’t big timing the Ravens.

i’d rather face this baltimore team than last year’s eagles team

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Regular season doesn't equal the playoffs.

Funny, I thought last Sunday was our biggest hurdle to make it to the big game.

Not sure what your point is anymore. I’ll leave you to pat yourself on the back about how singularly brilliant the Chiefs are and how the lowly Ravens can’t dare to dream of ever being on their level.

[Johnny8]

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

No, it’s just a lazy, dumb, childish failure to actually engage in the debate. Why don’t you address the point and explain why it’s unfair to compare Hurts’s game to Jackson’s game (it’s not) by, you know, actually talking about football rather than lobbing stupid accusations of racist stereotyping?

The post wasn't comparing parts of their games. It just said they were the same. I'm not going to keep rehashing this. Totally fair to compare any QB to any other, obviously. But when someone idiotically says they are the same QB, when they clearly are not save for ONE ATTRIBUTE, I'm going to call it out.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Well given that the Ravens have already demolished both of the potential NFC representatives in the Super Bowl, I feel confident that this week is the biggest hurdle.

Yea, be careful there. If you win Sunday and the 49ers win, I will be rooting for you. If the Lions win, I gotta root for the Lions. If you do play the 49ers you have to assume Brock will throw 5 more picks? The 49ers rolled up 429 yards of offense in that game. Of course, this is assuming you can get by Mahomes, which will be your toughest task.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Being down 24-0 was a big task. Playing the Bills with Josh Allen and the #1 Defense was a big task. We an add in Patrick's ankle last postseason and argue those were big task. You are right, Sunday will be a big task, but just another in line of big task during his career. This may have more emphasis as it is on the road. However, thank God Pat looks at each of these playoff games as his biggest obstacle and refused to be beaten. He can be beaten, he just makes it awfully hard...

Fair enough! Good problem to have choosing between which monumental accomplishment is more monumental

[PurpleOrange]

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

No, it’s just a lazy, dumb, childish failure to actually engage in the debate. Why don’t you address the point and explain why it’s unfair to compare Hurts’s game to Jackson’s game (it’s not) by, you know, actually talking about football rather than lobbing stupid accusations of racist stereotyping?

And what about all the posts referencing Lamar's wonderlic score and saying he is dumb and won't be able to read the Defense?

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Baltimore, you guys keep clinging to DVOA… that’s your right

I’ll keep remembering that Patrick Mahomes’ playoff career stat line is that of an MVP.

His numbers in playoff games alone would make him the unanimous winner of the award if lined up against this year’s options. Games against nothing but good to great playoff teams.

and honestly even already considering that 95% of playoff teams are good teams, I feel like the chiefs have had pretty strong playoff opponents most of the time, very rarely have we gotten a team we’re supposed to roll over. Probably just the steelers and dolphins