Eli Mannng vs. Rivers/Peyton - Page 7

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 10:35 PM

Manning and Rivers will forever be linked due to the draft day trade and the Chargers caving in to the pressure from the Mannings. Eli will also forever be compared to Peyton.

Well, it's pretty easy to see who got the better end of the draft day deal so let's move on to the brotherly comparisons. Eli has accomplished more in his first four seasons than Peyton. I have made the statements before and I'll say it again........with all the adversity that Eli had been through I believe he makes better reads and check downs than Peyton and thus is a better all around QB.

I've always felt Peyton had it easy in Indy. He was blessed to have the WR's he's had since coming into the league. It's easy to hit a deer in an open field. Ask Eli how much skill it takes to put the ball in traffic and make reads.

Any comments?

**doomy3** · 01-20-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Which one was on the field in the game and which one wasn't? If LT wasn't more seriously hurt than they let on then I consider that a problem.

This is what you play for, you're one game away from the bowl. The guy with the partially torn ACL and strained MCL is out there giving it all he's got. Meanwhile the teams best player is moping around the sideline.

Also this mobile argument is funny. Rivers avoided several sacks today and has never been overly mobile. It's not like this was Vick without legs out there today.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right, Mecca. You always are.

LT didn't play simply because he didn't want to. It was just too cold for him. They should cut him tomorrow.

Give me a freaking break. LT would have played if he could have. He gave it a go, and couldn't do it. Meanwhile, you talk shit from your basement. Hilarious.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:58 PM

They sure let on like he was fine....hey I assume he had something more seriously wrong with him. Rivers was certainly all ****ed up too he was out there.

And I'm not the one sitting here acting like Rivers is some bum, or Brodie Croyle is better than he is because he can throw a ball harder or stronger.

It's pretty damn obvious how much of a leader Rivers is to that team no matter how much people don't like him. He has major intangibles. but he'll always get shit on around here cause he's on the Chargers.

Dig the personal insult though, Chiefs Planet is always bringing the class, while bitching about a player they don't like because he they think he has no class...how ironic.

smittysbar · 01-21-2008, 12:11 AM

A RB with a bum knee compaired to a QB. Is this a joke?

Mecca · 01-21-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

A RB with a bum knee compaired to a QB. Is this a joke?

Well hey you'd think Rivers was the worst QB in the NFL after reading this thread that's a joke too. Well nevermind I'm dealing with people who think Brodie Croyle's gonna be awesome cause he has a strong arm and that's about it.

smittysbar · 01-21-2008, 12:16 AM

Rivers played with heart today. I couldn't believe the Half time crew saying that he needed to be benched. Boomer stuck up for him and said basically, Hell no! You use the guy that has been under center all year.

Mecca · 01-21-2008, 12:19 AM

Simms called them stupid for that too...

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-21-2008, 12:23 AM

I don't know if Rivers will ever play in a Super Bowl, but he showed his teammates what he's made of, on and off the football field today. He'll have the respect of that squad next year, without a doubt.

Eli has made tremendous leaps and bounds in his progress this year, much of that due to Gilbride and Palmer. The trio of Coughlin, Gilbride and Palmer got Jacksonville to the AFC Championship in only the Jag's third season. Now they've done it with the Giants but this time, the Super Bowl is in reach.

If only the Chiefs could be so fortunate to hire such a coaching staff...

Mecca · 01-21-2008, 01:14 AM

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=53180

Exactly. Dude you lay it all down on the field and at least get your team to the superbowl then sit out.

If you can walk without limping after sitting on a cold bench for 2 hours you can play in some fashion in the game.

My gut tells me that I dont think LT likes or wants to be on this team anymore. He hates rivers and i am half expecting him to demand a trade in the offseason.

Otherwize when you are the face of the franchise in the biggest game in the last 12 years you play PERIOD. Just like Rivers.

Charger fans don't seem very forgiving of LT.

Bill S Preston · 01-21-2008, 01:54 AM

Eli would have lost to the Titans, Colts, and Patriots.

ChiefsFootball · 01-21-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill S Preston

Eli would have lost to the Titans, Colts, and Patriots.

OMG ABSOLUTELY THE MF*N POINT!!! (Well, except insert the Chargers for Titans; I think the Giants could beat the Titans in a must win) Nailed it right on the head though. The Giants get spanked by any of those teams. How can you compare Eli and Peyton when E.Manning plays in the NFL Lite (NFC)...

Quiet Storm · 01-21-2008, 02:52 AM

All credibility in this thread was lost in the first post.

PB LB, PB K, PB QB > Eli

kcxiv · 01-21-2008, 03:09 AM

Eli's had a hell of a post season this year.

Jim Jones · 01-21-2008, 06:27 AM

What the hell was LT supposed to do? He has a possibly torn ACL and plays RUNNING BACK. There's absolutely no reason for him to be out there because there's no way he can help the team by being out there with a ****ed up knee.

snatch · 01-21-2008, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think it's great that everyone hates Rivers and thinks he's awful despite him winning 2 playoff games...he's up and down...much like Manning has been.

He played today on 2 bad knees, I don't think Rivers is nearly as bad as he's made out to be here.

He is horrible. Makes bad decisions and has a horrible attitude.

stonedstooge · 01-21-2008, 09:10 AM

Now don't go doubting Mr. Mecca, he has an inside line to all the Doctors, coaches and trainers for San Diego and thus is able to make the determination that LT should have been on the field because he was walking around on the sidelines without a limp. And Rivers antics are classy and make the game "fun" for people. Mr. Mecca I really don't understand how a man that possess such knowledge and insight of all the players, coaches, teams, college players, fan attitudes, etc. is not working for an NFL team. Your expertise in every aspect of the game is almost frightening.

01-20-2008, 10:35 PM
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Eli Mannng vs. Rivers/Peyton Manning and Rivers will forever be linked due to the draft day trade and the Chargers caving in to the pressure from the Mannings. Eli will also forever be compared to Peyton. Well, it's pretty easy to see who got the better end of the draft day deal so let's move on to the brotherly comparisons. Eli has accomplished more in his first four seasons than Peyton. I have made the statements before and I'll say it again........with all the adversity that Eli had been through I believe he makes better reads and check downs than Peyton and thus is a better all around QB. I've always felt Peyton had it easy in Indy. He was blessed to have the WR's he's had since coming into the league. It's easy to hit a deer in an open field. Ask Eli how much skill it takes to put the ball in traffic and make reads. Any comments?
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01-20-2008, 11:58 PM	#92
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2287050	They sure let on like he was fine....hey I assume he had something more seriously wrong with him. Rivers was certainly all ****ed up too he was out there. And I'm not the one sitting here acting like Rivers is some bum, or Brodie Croyle is better than he is because he can throw a ball harder or stronger. It's pretty damn obvious how much of a leader Rivers is to that team no matter how much people don't like him. He has major intangibles. but he'll always get shit on around here cause he's on the Chargers. Dig the personal insult though, Chiefs Planet is always bringing the class, while bitching about a player they don't like because he they think he has no class...how ironic.
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01-21-2008, 12:11 AM	#93
smittysbar Right in the Lumberyard Danny Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LaPlata, MO Casino cash: $10004942	A RB with a bum knee compaired to a QB. Is this a joke? __________________
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01-21-2008, 12:16 AM	#95
smittysbar Right in the Lumberyard Danny Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LaPlata, MO Casino cash: $10004942	Rivers played with heart today. I couldn't believe the Half time crew saying that he needed to be benched. Boomer stuck up for him and said basically, Hell no! You use the guy that has been under center all year. __________________
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01-21-2008, 12:19 AM	#96
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2287050	Simms called them stupid for that too...
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01-21-2008, 12:23 AM	#97
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	I don't know if Rivers will ever play in a Super Bowl, but he showed his teammates what he's made of, on and off the football field today. He'll have the respect of that squad next year, without a doubt. Eli has made tremendous leaps and bounds in his progress this year, much of that due to Gilbride and Palmer. The trio of Coughlin, Gilbride and Palmer got Jacksonville to the AFC Championship in only the Jag's third season. Now they've done it with the Giants but this time, the Super Bowl is in reach. If only the Chiefs could be so fortunate to hire such a coaching staff...
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01-21-2008, 01:14 AM	#98
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2287050	http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=53180 Exactly. Dude you lay it all down on the field and at least get your team to the superbowl then sit out. If you can walk without limping after sitting on a cold bench for 2 hours you can play in some fashion in the game. My gut tells me that I dont think LT likes or wants to be on this team anymore. He hates rivers and i am half expecting him to demand a trade in the offseason. Otherwize when you are the face of the franchise in the biggest game in the last 12 years you play PERIOD. Just like Rivers. Charger fans don't seem very forgiving of LT. Last edited by Mecca; 01-21-2008 at 06:37 AM..
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01-21-2008, 01:54 AM	#99
Bill S Preston Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Eli would have lost to the Titans, Colts, and Patriots. __________________ Chargers
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01-21-2008, 02:52 AM	#101
Quiet Storm Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $10004900	All credibility in this thread was lost in the first post. PB LB, PB K, PB QB > Eli
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01-21-2008, 06:27 AM	#103
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01-21-2008, 09:10 AM	#105
stonedstooge Arf! Arf! Arf! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Casino cash: $5764173	Mecca Now don't go doubting Mr. Mecca, he has an inside line to all the Doctors, coaches and trainers for San Diego and thus is able to make the determination that LT should have been on the field because he was walking around on the sidelines without a limp. And Rivers antics are classy and make the game "fun" for people. Mr. Mecca I really don't understand how a man that possess such knowledge and insight of all the players, coaches, teams, college players, fan attitudes, etc. is not working for an NFL team. Your expertise in every aspect of the game is almost frightening. __________________ 2013 ADOPT A CHIEF Eric Kush "Often is a word I seldom use"--JP
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