Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First Round

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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I don't know what this means for certain, but it would seem to indicate absolutely zero interest in Jimmy Clausen.

Sad.

It could mean Lombardi's a ****tard.

Funny how last year, you'd think they'd take anything for a trade down, and Lombardi ****s any leverage they had by falsely reporting that we had signed Cassel to a long-term deal.

Now he's ****ing their leverage again, by reporting that we're desperate to move down.

****ing ass clown.

[KCDC]

We should have traded down last year. Other than the QB positions, the talent in the top 5 or so was not appreciably better than guys in the mid-round. Oher was better than J. Smith, Monroe or Andre Smith at LT, Cushing, and others, were better than Curry, for example. I see lots of talent available at #9-15. If we get a second rounder extra in the top 50, that's pretty good value this year. You get Earl Thomas, Dan Williams, or a top rushbacker (and maybe even Clausen) and then you have three picks at the top of the second (instead of two). There are still very talented players available in the top 50 at NT, RT, WR, LB.

It appears that Pioli may not be sold on Clausen at #5 and is looking for a reach. If you are going to reach anyway, then you might as well get a pick.

The other thing I like about this is that Pioli is making the calls now to judge what teams might want. I hate it when I get the feeling that GMs just wait for the 15 minutes on draft day to get the call, sitting there only with the Value table as their friend. That is when mistakes are made. Knowing who is interested in moving up and what they would offer, before Thursday, is a very good exercise. It doesn't mean that he will trade, but at least he knows the market value of the #5 pick and can factor that in to his decision-making process.

[salame]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'd rather wait until the second round and draft a Nose Tackle like Cody or Cam Thomas, who probably are not a whole lot worse or different than Williams.

dan Williams is not a very good fit at nt for the chiefs

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What would you think if the Chiefs traded down and drafted an OLB? Because that's one scenario that I could be okay with, if they think a guy like Graham or Kindle or Hughes has potential to be a playmaker at that position. Because that's a position that I think is hugely important and grades just about right in the mid first round.

I've said this before.

There are three elite prospects in this draft.

Suh
McCoy
Berry

We look like we are going to have a shot at the one that fills a huge hole on our roster.

If we trade down, we better be raping the team that we trade down with.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I don't know what this means for certain, but it would seem to indicate absolutely zero interest in Jimmy Clausen.

Sad.

Unless it's a bluff so teams don't think we want Clausen so they don't trade in front of us to get him and just when they think they hung us out we take Clausen.

PhilFree
~I really don't believe that~

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It could mean Lombardi's a ****tard.

Funny how last year, you'd think they'd take anything for a trade down, and Lombardi ****s any leverage they had by falsely reporting that we had signed Cassel to a long-term deal.

Now he's ****ing their leverage again, by reporting that we're desperate to move down.

****ing ass clown.

Trust a ****ing Raider.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I don't know what this means for certain, but it would seem to indicate absolutely zero interest in Jimmy Clausen.

Sad.

A really big reach, but it could also be a way of getting feelers for Clausen's value or maybe trying to fake disinterest in the pick so nobody trades up ahead of them. Like I said, a really big reach.

[dtrain]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Agree 100%. Its too bad some of these guys can't work for the Chiefs, we would win superbowls every season.....I guess its a shame they are too busy posting messages on a message board to get a job.

So true!!!

[CaliforniaChief]

If Lombardi is dialed in like he seems to be....that's too bad.

I fear some of the dots may start to come together for me, which would be regrettable.

Conservative owner hires GM who is a football extension of his conservative approach to business and all other things. Conservative GM builds "solid" organization.

I hope I'm wrong!!! And I'm certainly not decided that this is the case....yet.

[Pioli Zombie]

I am totally in agreement with the Drafturbators this year. Eric Berry is as close to a lock to be a be Pro Bowl player as you can get. Teamed with Flowers in the backfield and it can change your defense, especially if Crennel can get the young talent on the line and Johnson to play to their best. Berry should be the pick.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by KCDC

We should have traded down last year. Other than the QB positions, the talent in the top 5 or so was not appreciably better than guys in the mid-round. Oher was better than J. Smith, Monroe or Andre Smith at LT, Cushing, and others, were better than Curry, for example. I see lots of talent available at #9-15. If we get a second rounder extra in the top 50, that's pretty good value this year. You get Earl Thomas, Dan Williams, or a top rushbacker (and maybe even Clausen) and then you have three picks at the top of the second (instead of two). There are still very talented players available in the top 50 at NT, RT, WR, LB.

It appears that Pioli may not be sold on Clausen at #5 and is looking for a reach. If you are going to reach anyway, then you might as well get a pick.

The other thing I like about this is that Pioli is making the calls now to judge what teams might want. I hate it when I get the feeling that GMs just wait for the 15 minutes on draft day to get the call, sitting there only with the Value table as their friend. That is when mistakes are made. Knowing who is interested in moving up and what they would offer, before Thursday, is a very good exercise. It doesn't mean that he will trade, but at least he knows the market value of the #5 pick and can factor that in to his decision-making process.

There aren't any GMs that don't go into the draft without having an idea of what other teams are looking at in the drfat.

None of them go into and make these decisions simply in the time frame allowed for picks.

[boogblaster]

They should be trying to trade up and get the NT ...

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by boogblaster

They should be trying to trade up and get the NT ...

trade up where?

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Trading down a playmaker for a safe but relatively effective player is a horrible decision. That's essentially what they're doing here.

If they're trading down, they need to either get two first day picks or they need to take a guy with playmaker potential, like potentially a 3-4 OLB.

It's not like last year, when it was pretty much Sanchez or second-rate first round prospects. This year, Berry is very likely going to be on our board and there isn't a single person who would disagree that this kid is going to be a playmaker.

I think it's better than 50/50 but there is no guaranteed player ever.

[the Talking Can]

Berry is as 'safe' a pick as is possible

elite talent + great character + great work ethic + position of need = safe pick


jesus....if the guys busts you'd just have to throw up your hands...










and since we have no desire to win a superbowl, and won't pick a qb for the 25+ straight year...we might as well do the next best thing