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Old 04-27-2010, 10:27 AM  
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Weiss told Fox to take Clausen
It's water under the bridge, but interesting nonetheless:

In doing pre-draft research, not that he thought he'd have a chance to get Clausen, Fox talked to Charlie Weis, his good friend and the former Irish coach. Weis and Fox are close. Fox is sure Weis wouldn't lie to him. "Charlie said he's probably the best he's ever had,'' Fox said. "He said, 'Take this guy. Trust me.' Everyone I talked to, including a couple of people at Notre Dame, said the character issue was b.s. So we picked him.''

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Old 04-27-2010, 12:17 PM   #91
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Wow. I didn't think your posts could get any more reeruned, and then I read this.

You're comparing two franchise QB's to Matt Cassel, 7th round pick.

Holy shit, this is beyond epic stupidity here, folks.
Freeman and Flacco...late 1st round picks...are already FRANCHISE QB's?!?!??

Hahaha...

Only one of the three are paid like a franchise QB, and that's Cassel...

Other than Aaron Rodgers...name a late 1st round pick that has gone to a Pro Bowl in the last 10 years.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:17 PM   #92
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Hootie, you're an evangelical of the Church of ****tardery.

Much like a religious nutjob, no amount of evidence matters, and no claim, no matter how well substantiated and logical, will budge you from your "faith".

You have no understanding of logic, as all of your posts are completely fallacious, contradictory, and the evidence is simultaneously insufficient, inaccurate, atypical, and irrelevant.

I can't imagine that you've ever taken a single course in critical thinking, argumentative writing, or logic at the college level, because the only thing you build your arguments on are what you believe.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:17 PM   #93
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Pioli says "nope, I think we need this very dangerous scat-back, he's another Kevin Faulk. Good luck with Cassel, cuz he's who you're stuck with", then I just don't believe it.

Not at quarterback. The position is too important.
Never underestimate the size of a person's ego when they shell out alot of cash to a QB who's his "guy".
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:18 PM   #94
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EVERYONE praises the Packers for taking Rodgers in 2005 and their HOF starter is STILL playing and it's 2010...

Yet I list 19 teams with CLEAR QB needs...especially for a guy who falls into the middle of the 2nd...

and then explain OBVIOUSLY he wasn't graded to be an Aaron Rodgers...or a franchise QB...

and the band of morons still want to call me the moron...and want to pretend only 4 or 5 teams had pressing QB needs...

and want to pretend like the Chiefs are somehow different than the Bucs or Ravens...and ignore the fact we're in the same exact predicament as both teams except we pay our starting QB even more...which means we are basically even LESS in need of a QB than those two teams by that thought process...
You think the Patriots and Ravens have "pressing" QB needs?

And btw, you should consider Valium. Calm the hell down.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:18 PM   #95
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"I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
It's about that bad.

I've been here 5 years, and I've never seen anything like this.

This is Hootie's Magnum Opus of Stupidity.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:19 PM   #96
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The Rams should have taken him.

You know, in case Bradford doesn't work out.

Hamas is absolutely correct. Your argument should be why SF, Buffalo and Cleveland passed - not making up ridiculous claims about why teams that have QB's should be using a high pick in a deep draft on one.

You should stick to gambling, FBB and date rape - because you've proven over the past 72 hours that you know very little about the NFL and the draft.

Enjoy your career at Bennigan's.
I didn't name the Rams as one of the 19 teams...now did I?

I didn't name the Lions either...or the Jets...now did I?

I did name two teams comparable to the Chiefs who took late 1st round QB's...

What's the difference between the Ravens, who took a QB in the 1st two years ago who played sporadic, at best last year...and the Chiefs...who traded an early 2nd for a QB and then paid him $60M???

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

None.

So...

You are a dumb****...

Case closed yet?
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Freeman and Flacco...late 1st round picks...are already FRANCHISE QB's?!?!??

Hahaha...

Only one of the three are paid like a franchise QB, and that's Cassel...

Other than Aaron Rodgers...name a late 1st round pick that has gone to a Pro Bowl in the last 10 years.
You honestly don't consider Flacco to be a Franchise QB?
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Never underestimate the size of a person's ego when they shell out alot of cash to a QB who's his "guy".
Yeah, that's like rule #1 of the "Patriots' Way" (whatever that is). If Pioli didn't learn to ignore ego in making personnel decisions, then he learned nothing.

Belichick cuts bait with draft picks or FA's he brought in as fast or faster than anybody.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:20 PM   #99
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I never said Clausen is going to be a bust. I hope everything works out for the guy...

I was also resigned to the fact that if we didn't take Clausen, we didn't want Clausen...

As a fan...and a fan of the big bang picks like Clausen...I certainly wanted to hear his name at #36...

When it didn't happen, it became quite clear to me we NEVER wanted him.

and you know what?

I GOT OVER IT...

and now I'm excited to see what McCluster and Arenas (and the others) will bring to this team...
Yeah. It's time to move on. McCluster and Arenas are our guys. I'll follow Clausen's career just like anyone else I think would have been a good pick up for the Chiefs, but what's done is done.

Just for old time's sake.................

We should just take Clausen at five.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:21 PM   #100
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You think the Patriots and Ravens have "pressing" QB needs?

And btw, you should consider Valium. Calm the hell down.
You're telling me you would have been disappointed if the Patriots took Clausen around pick #40?

Isn't that a similar scenario to what the Packers did in 2005?

The Patriots had the picks to draft, develop, and cheaply pay a QB that who these guys are talking about as a franchise level QB...

you would have been disappointed with that pick?
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Freeman and Flacco...late 1st round picks...are already FRANCHISE QB's?!?!??

Hahaha...

Only one of the three are paid like a franchise QB, and that's Cassel...
God that hurts just to read. Tell me you're not arguing that they can't be franchise guys because they don't get paid enough...
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So the Jets, Lions and Rams have franchise QB's, and the Ravens and Bucs don't.

Interesting logic.
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The Packers took Aaron Rodgers in 2005 because Brett Favre was pulling his usual retire/don't retire bullshit. They had no one to back him up and Rodgers happened to fall to them. But since 24 other teams passed on him....he's not a Franchise QB....right?
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It's about that bad.

I've been here 5 years, and I've never seen anything like this.

This is Hootie's Magnum Opus of Stupidity.
Hate to break it to you, but we went a ton of rounds back at the twilight of the Herm era and he's about always this bad.
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:22 PM   #105
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You honestly don't consider Flacco to be a Franchise QB?
hell ****ing no!

Not yet.

You know what he did last year?

He had a comparable year to Matt Cassel's 2008.

Is that a franchise QB?
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