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Old 12-21-2010, 03:48 PM  
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The Jets or the Ravens in the Playoffs?
Let's assume that the Chiefs, the Jets, and the Ravens make the playoffs. The Jets and the Ravens being WC.

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Old 12-21-2010, 05:40 PM   #91
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Prior to last week, Sanchez threw a pick in 8 straight games. He had 3 multi pick games. Flacco has been more consistent than Sanchez.

Both are hard matchups. I think Flowers would match up on Holmes if we played the Jets, while Carr would match up on Boldin if we played the Ravens.
Whether Flowers gets Boldin or Mason, both are a better matchup for him than Holmes. Holmes can do it all. Flowers would have a harder time contending with Holmes' speed and quickness.

I honestly think Flowers can shut down either mason of Boldin. Neither of them scare me the way Jets Recievers do. Those boys can really stretch the field.
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:41 PM   #92
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Whether Flowers gets Boldin or Mason, both are a better matchup for him than Holmes. Holmes can do it all. Flowers would have a harder time contending with Holmes' speed and quickness.

I honestly think Flowers can shut down either mason of Boldin. Neither of them scare me the way Jets Recievers do. Those boys can really stretch the field.
Too bad Sanchez can't get them the ball.

Santonio Holmes has had 2 or 3 games to write home about all year. Bowe has had more big games.

Our defense collapses against teams that can throw the ball well...and the Jets don't. And their running game, as D2112 will tell you, has lost a lot of steam.
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:47 PM   #94
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The Jets could stop our run game AND they have a shutdown corner. Baltimore might be able to stop our run game, and they might be able to take Bowe out of the equation, but I can't see them doing both at once like the Jets could.
Not sure how I missed this, but yeah, this.

If Cassel does manage to get time against Balt, Bowe should be able to get seperation.

If Cassel does manage to get time against NYJ, Bowe will be blanketed.

considering that both teams are going to blitz the shit out of Cassel, it's hard to determine which is the better matchup. Both are terrible matchups for us offensively.

It's about who our D matches up with better.

And I like Hali against Oher. And I like Flowers/Carr against Mason or Boldin. Ray Rice has been a non factor most of this year.
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With respect, I've watched a lot of Jet games this year and their passing attack is not very scary. The receivers drop a LOT of balls. And Sanchez is not an accurate passer. They mostly just run slants and underneath stuff.
Seems like a biased rundown to me. I've seen every single Jets game this year, and every other game since almost a decade ago. The Jets are the one team I don't want at Arrowhead in the playoffs. There's not really much other choices at this point, but I'd gladly face Baltimore if its between them and the Jets.
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Ray Rice has been a non factor most of this year.


He has 1,600 yards from scrimmage.

I honestly can't believe anyone would want to face Haloti Ngata and Ray Lewis in a do or die game. I don't care who's playing corner....if Suggs is rushing, our offense is gonna get raped.
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I'd like to run at Jason Taylor:

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One Pittsburgh native making a homecoming visit who didn’t fare quite so well was Jason Taylor (-5.1), although he would ultimately prove to be one of the heroes.

Taylor didn’t generate a single pressure in 36 pass rush attempts, was pancaked by Chris Kemoeatu on a long run to the outside which set up a touchdown and gave up outside contain at least one other time.

He also had one tackle. However, that tackle was perhaps his biggest as a Jets defender, because he tackled Mewelde Moore in the end zone for a vital safety late in the fourth quarter.
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He has 1,600 yards from scrimmage.

I honestly can't believe anyone would want to face Haloti Ngata and Ray Lewis in a do or die game. I don't care who's playing corner....if Suggs is rushing, our offense is gonna get raped.
Dude barely has 1k in rushing and has 7 games averaging less than 4 YPC. Hardly scary.
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He has 1,600 yards from scrimmage.

I honestly can't believe anyone would want to face Haloti Ngata and Ray Lewis in a do or die game. I don't care who's playing corner....if Suggs is rushing, our offense is gonna get raped.
Bottom line, Baltimore can get a shit ton of pressure without blitzing, being able to drop more into coverage.

The Jets can't, which means there will be one-on-one matchups available.

The Ravens also get a lot more penetration in their run defense, IMO.
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when you use the eyeball test or on paper, pretty much everything screams Jets are the more dangerous team.

then you look at the Coach,Quarterback and Heart and those all go to the Ravens

it's the heart that might be key ... Ravens have a ton, Jets look to be a bunch of punks.
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Dude barely has 1k in rushing and has 7 games averaging less than 4 YPC. Hardly scary.
Well, I still say he's a damn good player and far from a non factor. He was among the top five in yards from scrimmage a year ago, too. That doesn't happen by accident.

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when you use the eyeball test or on paper, pretty much everything screams Jets are the more dangerous team.
How are we going to run on the Ravens? Explain that to me, seriously.
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Whats the biggest deficit the Chiefs have came back from this year? With the shitty pass rush we have I just see any of the mentioned teams getting out to lead and i'm not sure we comeback from it.
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7 points, week 1, 1st quarter vs Chargers (0-7)
6 points, week 15, 1st quarter @ Rams (0-6)

We haven't come back from a big deficit this year. Not to say we cant, but every time we fell behind two possessions we lost.
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Seems like a biased rundown to me. I've seen every single Jets game this year, and every other game since almost a decade ago. The Jets are the one team I don't want at Arrowhead in the playoffs. There's not really much other choices at this point, but I'd gladly face Baltimore if its between them and the Jets.
Oddly most of the Jets fans I know are saying they'd much rather face the Chiefs than Baltimore.

I can't imagine Baltimore losing to Miami like the Jets did two weeks ago. Not to mention the Ravens beat the Jets. In NY.
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I would bet anything the reason the Jets have a statistically better run defense is their schedule. Someone posted their schedule awhile back and they've played a bunch of terrible teams...I bet most of them were lousy running teams.

#1 running team or not, we are not built to block that front seven.
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