Philip Gaines Review

[RunKC]

On my phone so somebody else can post the story.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/9...source=twitter

This guy looked really good last weekend. It really shows just how big of a loss he was last year and how much faith Dorsey had in this guy to replace Sean Smith.

Hope he keeps it up.

[DaneMcCloud]

Also, the offensive game plan was pure dogshit.

Last year, the Chiefs had success scheming away from Watt. Clowney's definitely improved but IMO, they just allowed Watt to disrupt them way too often.

Why in the ****ing world are the Chiefs carrying 4 TE's if they're not going to use a 3 TE formation? Harris next to Schwartz would have helped considerably.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

We were out of timeouts and under the 2 minute warning. They had to play for an onside kick.

That's what the "book" says but I don't agree in that situation.

Santos had a bad day. It wasn't the time to put the game in his hands with an onside kick.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's what the "book" says but I don't agree in that situation.

Santos had a bad day. It wasn't the time to put the game in his hands with an onside kick.

Had a bad day because of the kick out of bounds? Had to have been because dude was money with his FGs.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's what the "book" says but I don't agree in that situation.

Santos had a bad day. It wasn't the time to put the game in his hands with an onside kick.

If you don't recover the onside kick, the games over whether you scored a td or a fg.

There's no other option

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Eh, agree to disagree. Bad snap that led to a score, Harris not protecting the ball, fumble fingers by everyone essentially other than Kelce, poor right tackle and guard play, consecutive false starts on the final drive and so on.

That's what i meant by our offense being "off". That's why im not really concerned about yesterday's loss. The offense put together an abnormally shit performance.

I haven't seen Alex that off since the Titans game several years ago....and Maclin didn't look like he had his head in the game at all. Where was his normal, chirpy, shit talking self?

Overall we had too many mental mistakes.

Combine that with the Texans playing sound defense and the result is what we saw yesterday.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Had a bad day because of the kick out of bounds? Had to have been because dude was money with his FGs.

I think the kick out of bounds had an effect but who knows?

That onside kick was teh suck

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

That's what i meant by our offense being "off". That's why im not really concerned about yesterday's loss. The offense put together an abnormally shit performance.

I haven't seen Alex that off since the Titans game several years ago....and Maclin didn't look like he had his head in the game at all. Where was his normal, chirpy, shit talking self?

Overall we had too many mental mistakes.

Combine that with the Texans playing sound defense and the result is what we saw yesterday.

I'm not concerned with yesterday's loss, either. If they had played their "A" game and lost, I'd be concerned. But the offense sucked ass for 4 quarters and still had a chance to win it with 2 minutes left.

Although I have to admit, if they play well at Arrowhead but stumble in Pittsburgh and Oakland, there will be legitimate questions about their road preparedness.

[Dark Horse]

A couple of quick observations. 1. It doesn't look like Gaines trusts that knee completely yet, he didn't make the quick cuts that we saw him make before the injury. 2. Maclin missed practice on thursday for personal reasons and goes out sunday and has his worst game as a Chief. Was his head somwhere else?

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think the kick out of bounds had an effect but who knows?

That onside kick was teh suck

It for sure had an effect on the game. Taub was about to kill somebody. He also was freaking money on his FGs. That long one was as straight as any field goal is going to get. The technique on those type of onside kicks leads to either a perfect bounce or a terrible one.

As for Gaines, he looked pretty good in coverage. As stated, the play shouldn't have ended up in just his hands. It did however, and as also already stated, he has to make that play. A great defense makes that play, not matter who really should have been there. The game was on the offense, but a great defense gives the offense another mulligan by making that play. Gaines does need to improve his tackling, and I don't see why he can't or won't get a little better. Guy is still growing as a player.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Oh Jesus. Apparently we can't discuss issues with players on a Chiefs forum now? That's the shit card you wanna play?

What am I, a fan, going to do about it? Really DJ? Don't stoop that low.

Did i say i wanted him benched or cut? I said i wanted him to fix his **** ups, because right now the weak link in his game has hurt this defense and will hurt it again in the future.

Much like Peters' emotional and inconsistent play, Gaines needs to fix his shit or we're gonna lose games because of it.

You're the one that took to abusing straw men, here.

Nobody said his tackling doesn't matter. Nobody said he's elite at it.

But if that's what you're going to hang up on, you're going to run out of time to get pissed at everything on this team. Because again, a CB's tackling is on par with a WRs blocking.

What if Gaines doesn't fix his shit? What if the best he ever becomes is a good cover man and a willing, if poor, tackler? Because do you get the impression that he's shying away from contact? I've never seen that. Mostly he's just a slight guy who's going to be giving up size to just about anyone he's facing.

[Anyong Bluth]

Really?

Gaines is now to blame for other people out of position.


Derp

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Hyperbole.

I guess asking defenders to actually tackle is too much these days.

Under that assumption we only need 1 guy on D. If he can't tackle whoever has the ball he sucks. Nevermind the blocker. Which means all D lineman suck because they're not sacking the QB every down and those pesky OL have nothing to do with them failing to achieve their goal. The inverse of tackling is blocking sweetheart, and when your team mate has a brainfart and leaves you on an island with 2 guys, 9 / 10 the offense wins that battle.

Coming out of a timeout, your signalcaller, heart of the D, Mr. Tackle, is asleep at the wheel, fails to mark his man, and not even aware Houston's about to quick snap and hit the hot read on the crucial 3rd down of the game that was hanging in the balance of them potentially mounting a comeback in a game they had no business even being within 1 score to knot it up all even, and if so would have robbed all the momentum.



Simple.
****ing.
numbers.

[Kiimo]

Be it known that I did not watch the Houston game. I was up in the wilderness camping.

That said I DID watch the Raiders / Saints game.

Kevin Kietzman and Soren Petro both went off on the Chiefs letting Sean Smith go and keeping Berry.

Welp.

The Chiefs were right. Again.

[CapsLockKey]

Gaines only has a handful of starts under his belt. He's shown a lot more positive than negative and will hopefully continue to get even better. Overall the corners looking very promising. Just need to remember they are very young and inexperienced at this point. Having very little pass rush right now is putting a lot on their shoulders.