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Old 10-06-2020, 02:13 PM   #1
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Not sure why we're bagging on Sammy for that fumble. It was punched out by a very savvy safety, IIRC. And when's the last time Sammy fumbled? Was he a Chief when that happened? Otherwise, he played pretty well.
Seems like he has a couple every year...

Yeah, he had 2 last year and 1 the year before.
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Old 10-06-2020, 04:17 PM   #2
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Seems like he has a couple every year...

Yeah, he had 2 last year and 1 the year before.
Sammy has a whopping 5 fumbles in a 7 year career.

Just for the sake of comparison, Julio Jones over roughly the same period has 11.

Watkins probably gets about half the balls in a season, probably a little less, so Sammy's fumbling about as often as JJ. I think we can live with that.
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Old 10-06-2020, 04:45 PM   #3
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Sammy has a whopping 5 fumbles in a 7 year career.

Just for the sake of comparison, Julio Jones over roughly the same period has 11.

Watkins probably gets about half the balls in a season, probably a little less, so Sammy's fumbling about as often as JJ. I think we can live with that.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's a huge problem or anything. Just that he has 1 or 2 a year it seems like.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:18 PM   #4
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Only the Patriots can employ these tactics against us. It takes a loaded secondary with each player needing specific traits and the ability to effortlessly play as one. Its so complicated that the ex Pats that became head coaches in Detroit and Miami are still trying to get their players ready for it.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:19 PM   #5
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Only the Patriots can employ these tactics against us. It takes a loaded secondary with each player needing specific traits and the ability to effortlessly play as one. Its so complicated that the ex Pats that became head coaches in Detroit and Miami are still trying to get their players ready for it.
And the coaches in Houston were never able to recreate despite several attempts.
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Old 10-06-2020, 06:32 PM   #6
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Only the Patriots can employ these tactics against us. It takes a loaded secondary with each player needing specific traits and the ability to effortlessly play as one. Its so complicated that the ex Pats that became head coaches in Detroit and Miami are still trying to get their players ready for it.
There's a theory that in stacking up to beat the Chiefs, the Pats make them vulnerable to teams like Tennessee and Baltimore. We are THAT team and it feels pretty great. Especially since even on their best day we can beat them.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:43 PM   #7
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I think Andy didn’t want to unpack too much of the playbook last night. He got a lead and then went vanilla. If somehow the Pats would have takes the lead he may have pulled more out. But defense and the Pats qb situation we’re making it where we didn’t have to. I couldn’t believe Hoodie was still playing short ball with a 2-3 score deficit late in the 4th quarter. Shows how little faith he has in those backups.
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Old 10-06-2020, 05:05 PM   #8
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I've always said to rush 2 guys & have 9 back in a zone. It limits the open windows & in a zone you can watch Mahomes so he can't break a long run.

Only a solid running game would put an end to that & the Chiefs just don't have one.
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Old 10-06-2020, 07:02 PM   #9
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I've always said to rush 2 guys & have 9 back in a zone. It limits the open windows & in a zone you can watch Mahomes so he can't break a long run.

Only a solid running game would put an end to that & the Chiefs just don't have one.
I'm currently watching the NFL Network replay of the Browns/Cowboys game and it's a sad reminder of how incredible Kareem Hunt would be in this offense. You want to make Patrick's job easier? Give him a back like Hunt to complement CEH, especially as CEH learns on the job.

Hell, maybe even a guy like D'Ernest Johnson would get it done. I don't know.
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Old 10-07-2020, 03:20 AM   #10
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I'm currently watching the NFL Network replay of the Browns/Cowboys game and it's a sad reminder of how incredible Kareem Hunt would be in this offense. You want to make Patrick's job easier? Give him a back like Hunt to complement CEH, especially as CEH learns on the job.



Hell, maybe even a guy like D'Ernest Johnson would get it done. I don't know.
I had the same thought when watching the highlights of that game.

Hunt is faster than CEH, makes more people miss and breaks more tackles, and I still say he has hips that move like Barry Sanders, giving him great balance and allowing for him to make cuts or moves on a dime. And we know he can be a receiver out of the backfield.

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I'm currently watching the NFL Network replay of the Browns/Cowboys game and it's a sad reminder of how incredible Kareem Hunt would be in this offense. You want to make Patrick's job easier? Give him a back like Hunt to complement CEH, especially as CEH learns on the job.

Hell, maybe even a guy like D'Ernest Johnson would get it done. I don't know.
Your constant pining for Kareem Hunt is on par with OKChiefs/Red Dawg bitching about our CBs. You do realize that, right?
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It's been just four weeks with a rookie RB and a OL that we've already shuffled twice. I think we can wait 3-4 more weeks to see what we have in CEH. But so far I think he's done a pretty good job. Sure he's gotten stuffed a few times, but without looking at the A-22/coaches film, it's hard to say exactly what the problem is. But he has also made some really nice runs in each game. Let him have a few more weeks with a stable OL and we'll have a much better idea what's what.
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The Patriots have the best secondary in the league, how many other teams can hold up in coverage with this approach?


This is what the Titans tried to do to us in the AFC Championship game and we tore them apart.
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The Patriots have the best secondary in the league, how many other teams can hold up in coverage with this approach?


This is what the Titans tried to do to us in the AFC Championship game and we tore them apart.
I'm thinking every team in the AFC at least is looking at the film to try and figure out what Bill did last night.

I'm also thinking that maybe only a couple teams have the players to make it work. Steelers, Chargers, maybe the Bills if they can figure out how to generate any pressure with their down 4.

Then, how many of them have the DC smart enough as well as the players with enough football IQ to put it all together.

So yeah, probably one or two teams in the AFC. Probably about the same in the NFC.
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If you create a special hybrid defense just for one game and Mahomes, you''ll probably have some success.

The question: how often can you do that?
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