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Sassy Squatch · 02-01-2022, 02:58 PM

Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://t.co/4FVAlelLQU
— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022

Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.
— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022

staylor26 · 02-05-2022, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

No you're right, he's suing the NFL and trying to get class action status(I don't know if will succeed on that point) to get his job back...

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I never said that’s why. Those are your words.

To me it’s coming off like a tantrum becuase he got fired and didn’t get the Giants job.

staylor26 · 02-05-2022, 11:08 AM

And that is the entire point that LA and Whitlock are making.

This does nothing for Flores OR black coaches and front office members.

ChiefsFan123456 · 02-05-2022, 11:09 AM

Flores is out of the running for the Texans head coaching job

DJ's left nut · 02-05-2022, 11:28 AM

Oh look, more statements from Roger about their poor hiring practices.

Roger, buddy, have none of your attorneys EVER heard of this little thing called an "Admission against interest"?

Dude - just shut the **** up. I know you don't actually believe any of this crap and are just trying to bow to your corporate overlords, but this is still all going to be used against you.

Use your head, man.

DJ's left nut · 02-05-2022, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

No you're right, he's suing the NFL and trying to get class action status(I don't know if will succeed on that point) to get his job back...

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How the hell will he EVER get the 'numerosity' requirement for a class action?

There aren't any hard and fast limits on it, but typically if you can't get at least 40 members, you're not gonna get a class certification. Do they really think, especially with the recent Transunion Holding, that they can find 40 people who can make a showing of 'concrete harm' beyond mere speculation?

I still think Flores lawyer is an idiot.

mkp785 · 02-05-2022, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You continue to lie about why I called him a outstanding citizen, even after I told you multiple times. The issue here isn’t “racism in NFL hiring”. The issue here is sapho said we’re racist if we don’t agree with him.

You aren’t interested in having a real discussion though. This is pure emotion because me saying that hurt you.

Emotion?

That's rich coming from the biggest, whiniest, bitch in the forum. You shed more tears and freak out when called on things then everyone else combined.

You should eat the biggest dick you can find and stop spreading your bullshit.

Flores had no reason to be fired from Miami- especially if he didnt want Tua and preferred Herbert. I can believe that Elway came in drunk and was dismissive during their interview. Rooney interviews are mostly sham interviews it seems.

True to form, you're being stupid as always..

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-05-2022, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

Emotion?

That's rich coming from the biggest, whiniest, bitch in the forum. You shed more tears and freak out when called on things then everyone else combined.

You should eat the biggest dick you can find and stop spreading your bullshit.

Flores had no reason to be fired from Miami- especially if he didnt want Tua and preferred Herbert. I can believe that Elway came in drunk and was dismissive during their interview. Rooney interviews are mostly sham interviews it seems.

True to form, you're being stupid as always..

The Tua/Herbert stuff is revisionist history. Loads of fans were thrilled that the Chargers picked Herbert over Tua. Both QBs were considered top 15 talents. People are acting like it was clear cut that Herbert was superior. It wasn't.

Regardless if he wanted Herbert over Tua, he didn't help Tua at all by pouting about having him and turning everything into a power struggle. Maybe Tua would be a better QB if Flores didn't turn the offensive coaching staff into a Bavarian fire drill.

He got fired because he made it a pick me or Tua situation. The owner went with his GM and QB. There was no situation where the owner could keep both without the situation blowing up.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-05-2022, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Carr, are you gay for Whitlock or something? Can I call him fat? Is that acceptable to you?

Yes, it is. Because he is fat.

Your other takes on him are incorrect, though.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-05-2022, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

He only "nailed it" if you think Flores' end game is just thinking about himself. He's trying to affect change.

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He only said those things to get the gullible media on his side. Hence the reason for the over the top rhetoric plastered throughout the lawsuit.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-05-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Doesn't matter.

Only skin color.

Need proof? 70% black players.

Notice how few think THIS is lopsided.

Meritocracy is selectively applied as long as it works for the group in question.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-05-2022, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Doesn't matter.

Only skin color.

Need proof? 70% black players.

Notice how few think THIS is lopsided.

The selection of players might be the most rigorous, data driven and merit based recruitment of any occupation. Hell, these guys are recruited before high school and every public analyst and fans weigh in on these decisions. There is nothing unusual about the demographic splits. Have you ever heard nearly the active effort to get more black players into hockey? No. Because people don’t doubt that players are usually picked out of merit.remember when urban got destroyed for bringing in Tebow on a meaningless contract? That’s how much these decisions are scrutinized.

That 2/3, you would expect, would at least influence who manages them, not the other way around. The selection of coaches is way more subjective and people pay way less attention. It’s not a secret that the nfl is as bad as it gets when it comes to favoring a good ole boy network.

DJ's left nut · 02-05-2022, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

He only "nailed it" if you think Flores' end game is just thinking about himself. He's trying to affect change.

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If he were trying to effect change he wouldn't have hired some dipshit shyster who managed to gack the holding of a 1L caliber case like Plessy v. Ferguson.

This is a strike suit. 90% of what that lawyer wrote ranges somewhere between unsubstantiated and irrelevant. And stuff like the Belichick texts were designed to do nothing but embarrass the league and/or BB.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-05-2022, 02:15 PM

Have to wonder if some of this is also based on timing.

Keep in mind that gruden is going to sue and I’m sure his first question will be why the **** did the nfl redact every email but “accidentally” chose to leave his name on there. Seems malicious. Second is the Daniel Snyder shit. The nfl is getting a lot of heat for creating a sham investigation into themselves then hiding it from the public, with the absurd clause that information can’t be made public unless Daniel Snyder approves it.

If feels like this is just the tip of the iceberg. Why would the owners continue to protect Snyder? Are they afraid of how much he knows at this point? It’s interesting timing because the owners are in a really bad spot right now. Have to think Flores is exploiting some of that

staylor26 · 02-05-2022, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkp785

Emotion?

That's rich coming from the biggest, whiniest, bitch in the forum. You shed more tears and freak out when called on things then everyone else combined.

You should eat the biggest dick you can find and stop spreading your bullshit.

Flores had no reason to be fired from Miami- especially if he didnt want Tua and preferred Herbert. I can believe that Elway came in drunk and was dismissive during their interview. Rooney interviews are mostly sham interviews it seems.

True to form, you're being stupid as always..

R8RFAN · 02-05-2022, 05:14 PM

If Flores wasn't fired would he have told the story about being offered 100k to lose?
If Flores wasn't fired would he have landed another NFL HC position?

02-01-2022, 02:58 PM
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1220345	Brian Flores suing the NFL Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://t.co/4FVAlelLQU — Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022 Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place. — Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022
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02-05-2022, 11:08 AM	#1082
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1890960	And that is the entire point that LA and Whitlock are making. This does nothing for Flores OR black coaches and front office members.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-630901	Oh look, more statements from Roger about their poor hiring practices. Roger, buddy, have none of your attorneys EVER heard of this little thing called an "Admission against interest"? Dude - just shut the **** up. I know you don't actually believe any of this crap and are just trying to bow to your corporate overlords, but this is still all going to be used against you. Use your head, man. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1545503	Have to wonder if some of this is also based on timing. Keep in mind that gruden is going to sue and I’m sure his first question will be why the **** did the nfl redact every email but “accidentally” chose to leave his name on there. Seems malicious. Second is the Daniel Snyder shit. The nfl is getting a lot of heat for creating a sham investigation into themselves then hiding it from the public, with the absurd clause that information can’t be made public unless Daniel Snyder approves it. If feels like this is just the tip of the iceberg. Why would the owners continue to protect Snyder? Are they afraid of how much he knows at this point? It’s interesting timing because the owners are in a really bad spot right now. Have to think Flores is exploiting some of that
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02-05-2022, 05:14 PM	#1095
R8RFAN Molôn Labé Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Casino cash: $8466872	If Flores wasn't fired would he have told the story about being offered 100k to lose? If Flores wasn't fired would he have landed another NFL HC position?
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