Biggest 10 needs in '09

[Mr. Laz]

1. RDE (no pass rush whatsoever)
2. RT (McIntsuck gives it up at least 3/4 times every game)
3. MLB (wanna buy someone who can tackle!!)
4. LDE (Hali should be a backup)
5. OLB (wanna buy someone who can tackle)
6. QB (thiggy looks good but ....... )
7. Center (Niswanger just can't seem to get any push at all)
8. CB (Flowers is hasty,Carr is a viable nickle, we need an athletic #1 guy)
9. Safety (Morgan? McGraw? geesh ... we need a stud back there)
10. RG/DT a tie ... we still need more talent in our interior lines


opinions?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Herm is putting guys like John McGraw on the field cause he's his good buddy...that's really the only way I can explain McGraw and Jones playing is that they are friends of Herms.

This.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

YOU are the only person saying that.

I'm saying (as well as others) that they aren't playing the best players at certain positions, especially on the OL.

If you're naive enough to trust Herm on these types of decisions, go right ahead.

The entire right side of the line is a ****ing trainwreck, and has been the entire season.

If I'm the only person saying it, then everyone else is an idiot. The Chiefs have benched a lot of players this year that have underperformed. They have cut a lot of players who have underperformed, regardless of their contract status.

You can blame the coaching staff for a lot of things. But it is absolutely absurd to suggest that this team is unopen to playing new guys.

And by the way, the right side of the line may not be great, but Thigpen has only been sacked 2 times before today. I don't remember how many times he was sacked today. That's not bad for an offensive line that you claim is a complete disaster.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Coach

Actually, I disagree, and milkman explained out the reasons why I think it will work.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...6&postcount=32

He's a guy who has spent his entire career with one foot back, and most of the time in a two point stance.
You now want to ask him to snap a ball (shotgun if we keep running spread/pistol stuff) and then move. It's completely different.
I can't think of any off the top of my head, but how many NFL linemen hae ever gone from a different position (especially tackle) to center?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Without a pass rush and a consistent running game. It won't matter who's standing behind the line

We spent years depending on FA's to maintain our team and that way failed.

Now we have a HC who refuses to sign any FA's (of worth or high dollar) and rely only on the draft.

That way lies also the fail.

It's a balance, and knowing the correct balance.

Our team needs talent and lacks a single all pro. NO ALL PRO save Gonzo, who will be traded after the season is over.

Let's add what talent we can and argue the justificating for adding them later...

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Sully

He's a guy who has spent his entire career with one foot back, and most of the time in a two point stance.
You now want to ask him to snap a ball (shotgun if we keep running spread/pistol stuff) and then move. It's completely different.
I can't think of any off the top of my head, but how many NFL linemen hae ever gone from a different position (especially tackle) to center?

Well, it's a off-season project that Taylor should participate, IMHO. I mean, if the guy wants to play, this might be his only good shot of getting some playing time, other than hoping for the fact that the coaches finally realize that McGinatosh sucks ass, and pulls him.

And Rudy at the C position is just not working out too well, IMHO.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Rausch

We spent years depending on FA's to maintain our team and that way failed.

Now we have a HC who refuses to sign any FA's (of worth or high dollar) and rely only on the draft.

That way lies also the fail.

It's a balance, and knowing the correct balance.

Our team needs talent and lacks a single all pro. NO ALL PRO save Gonzo, who will be traded after the season is over.

Let's add what talent we can and argue the justificating for adding them later...

We better hope they've gotten over that whole positional value thing and which guys are important and which guys aren't..

One of the biggest problems this team has had, and it's happened with the fans too is the Chiefs had some very good players at positions of less value.

Positions like RB,FB,Guard, TE to most teams those are expendable positions you don't pay.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If I'm the only person saying it, then everyone else is an idiot. The Chiefs have benched a lot of players this year that have underperformed. They have cut a lot of players who have underperformed, regardless of their contract status.

You can blame the coaching staff for a lot of things. But it is absolutely absurd to suggest that this team is unopen to playing new guys.

And by the way, the right side of the line may not be great, but Thigpen has only been sacked 2 times before today. I don't remember how many times he was sacked today. That's not bad for an offensive line that you claim is a complete disaster.

JFC.

Apparently they don't teach reading comprehension over at the Coalition.

I haven't suggested they aren't open to playing new guys. They are playign rookies ALL OVER THE FIELD.

Which makes it even more frustrating to see them be stubborn in playing two guys on the OL that wouldn't be backups on most teams, when you have young guys that could be getting some much needed experience.

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't think it's accurate to say that Herm doesn't want to spend in FA. I think it's more accurate to say that in this stage of the rebuild, we'd rather give young guys a chance to win a starting job and prove himself, rather than settle on an expensive, aging or average veteran free agent.

This is the right approach for now. I'll be livid, however, if this team doesn't spend some serious cash this offseason. After watching some tape on Julius Peppers, wow would that be an amazing acquisition.

Originally Posted by Rausch

We spent years depending on FA's to maintain our team and that way failed.

Now we have a HC who refuses to sign any FA's (of worth or high dollar) and rely only on the draft.

That way lies also the fail.

It's a balance, and knowing the correct balance.

Our team needs talent and lacks a single all pro. NO ALL PRO save Gonzo, who will be traded after the season is over.

Let's add what talent we can and argue the justificating for adding them later...

[Dark Horse]

Originally Posted by Rausch

We spent years depending on FA's to maintain our team and that way failed.

Now we have a HC who refuses to sign any FA's (of worth or high dollar) and rely only on the draft.

That way lies also the fail.

It's a balance, and knowing the correct balance.

Our team needs talent and lacks a single all pro. NO ALL PRO save Gonzo, who will be traded after the season is over.

Let's add what talent we can and argue the justificating for adding them later...

Let me try this analogy. Lets say you've got a car thats a fixer upper and lets say this jalopy has a bad transmition, bald tires, a defective radio and a cracked dash. You could either leave it in the garage while fixing all the things like the radio, the tires, the interior, etc. Or you could put a new tranny in it and at least get some mileage out of it while you rebuild .

[Sure-Oz]

We really need another great draft, and more picks

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

JFC.

Apparently they don't teach reading comprehension over at the Coalition.

I haven't suggested they aren't open to playing new guys. They are playign rookies ALL OVER THE FIELD.

Which makes it even more frustrating to see them be stubborn in playing two guys on the OL that wouldn't be backups on most teams, when you have young guys that could be getting some much needed experience.

That may be true, but the offensive line is the one area where you don't want to tinker too much with the continuity. It's not like other positions where you can move players around. The o-line isn't playing that bad. They're keeping Thigpen on his feet, which is the top priority right now.

I would like to see Taylor get more snaps, but I like that they're constantly moving him in and out to at least get him some reps. I also wonder if Wade Smith plays well enough to keep his job over Adrian Jones.

But again, it's a telling statement that the Chiefs have outright refused to play Richardson, but they're giving Taylor lots of reps at RT. I don't see why people think he's so good. I think he's a liability and he's too slow to be an NFL tackle. That's a position where one mistake and Thigpen is on IR.

[Rain Man]

1. Head coach
2. Right tackle
3. Quarterback (but if a franchise QB is available and you have a top-five pick, you go quarterback regardless of how well your first-year starter is playing)
4. Middle linebacker
5. Right defensive end
6. Right guard
7. General manager
8. Weakside linebacker (or move DJ and go strongside)
9. Kick returner
10. Bunch of wildman backups on special teams

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If I'm the only person saying it, then everyone else is an idiot. The Chiefs have benched a lot of players this year that have underperformed. They have cut a lot of players who have underperformed, regardless of their contract status.

You can blame the coaching staff for a lot of things. But it is absolutely absurd to suggest that this team is unopen to playing new guys.

And by the way, the right side of the line may not be great, but Thigpen has only been sacked 2 times before today. I don't remember how many times he was sacked today. That's not bad for an offensive line that you claim is a complete disaster.

You never cease to amaze me.

Your and idiot.

[Coach]

While they have benched some players who have underperformed, going to a point of cutting them, then someone explain to me why McIntosh is the exception to this rule?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Laz

1. RDE (no pass rush whatsoever)
2. RT (McIntsuck gives it up at least 3/4 times every game)
3. MLB (wanna buy someone who can tackle!!)
4. LDE (Hali should be a backup)
5. OLB (wanna buy someone who can tackle)
6. QB (thiggy looks good but ....... )
7. Center (Niswanger just can't seem to get any push at all)
8. CB (Flowers is hasty,Carr is a viable nickle, we need an athletic #1 guy)
9. Safety (Morgan? McGraw? geesh ... we need a stud back there)
10. RG/DT a tie ... we still need more talent in our interior lines


opinions?

Jesus.

1. QB
2. RDE
3. MLB
4. RT
5. WR
6. Right Guard
7. Center
8. CB
9. FS
10. LDE

Morgan is going to be a very good player