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htismaqe · 10-05-2009, 08:24 AM

The game wasn't on in my market yesterday and radio coverage was spotty all day, so I only heard portions of the game.

Who played well? Who didn't? Were there any surprises?

For example, it sounded to me like maybe Big Irish at RT was what most of us expected - a little better at run blocking, a little worse at pass blocking.

Give me your take.

keg in kc · 10-05-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well for me personally, I haven't read anything that disproves what he's written, whether in print or on the football field. LJ's "ego" response yesterday IMO goes a long way in reinforcing what Whitlock has written.

I don't know how to interpret what LJ said yesterday. Was he talking about the Giants or the Chiefs? Was he talking about the players or the coaches? Since most of the "ego" stuff from Whitlock has been about Pioli, then was that some kind of out of the blue comment from LJ about Pioli? Hell if I know. I don't have a horse in this race, so I'm not going to see it one way or the other. It was just a vague comment to me.

As for Whitlock, it's not a matter of disproving what he's written, it's a matter of proving what he's written. Because I haven't seen anybody else talk about it.

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I guess living 2,000 miles from Kansas City and Jason Whitlock leaves me less opinionated about him as a person and a personality than those living within 50 miles of the city.

I don't know Jason, so I don't really have an opinion on him as a person or as a personality. I don't judge people based on the job that they do or the face they choose to present to the world.

I just want "sources" instead of "source". That's all. So far we have Whitlock. And maybe Tim Grunhard, but he (much like Whitlock) sounds like somebody who'd been given the VIP treatment for years who's now upset because he's not being treated like he's some special paragon of the media.

Like I've said, I don't think this is about anybody's ego at Arrowhead, I think this is about the way the team handles the media now. Looks like Jason doesn't like it. But instead of just saying that, he's trying to be more controversial. 'cause, well, that's his job.

Just how I see it.

bobbything · 10-05-2009, 01:00 PM

What I saw:

(1) Offensive line played better. Not great, by any stretch. Hell, probably not even good, but better.

(2) Larry Johnson had nearly 50 yards rushing in the first half. However, I attribute it to sheer persistence from the coaches to make sure we finally got some positive yards running the ball. Granted, LJ was probably -25 yards rushing in the 2nd half. There was no creativity, no real continuity between running and passing, just 50 yards rushing. In odd fashion, we never tried to take advantage of it with play action passing.

(3) The front 7 played well for about 2 series. Once, forcing a fumble. I thought the secondary played well. But, I've thought they played pretty well all year.

(4) The linebackers suck. It's almost as if they're not even there.

(5) Outside of the sack and fumble recovery, Manning had plenty of time to throw the ball.

(6) Cassel looked bad. It was hard to use the "he never had any time" excuse this week because he had time on a number of occasions. Not every occasion, but he had his chances for sure. He overthrew Bowe for a sure-fire TD. He underthrew Engram (or was it Wade?) for a sure-fire TD. He was behind on slants and way in front on outs. He looked pretty bad.

(7) I hate to complain about playcalling because I think playcalling is subject to execution almost exclusively. However, I will say that I never understood our run, run, run, run, run approach until we get to the 1 yard line. Then we go to shotgun and try and throw the ball. Plus, as mentioned, if we're going to run that much, we should throw in some play action.

(8) Colquitt is awesome. I bet his leg is sore today.

**Buehler445** · 10-05-2009, 01:00 PM

Oh and Lawrence Tynes missed ANOTHER field goal in arrowhead. This time, the Chiefs didn't lose any points.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Just how I see it.

That's cool.

But from an outsider's point of view, it's difficult for me to believe that LJ's comment, made not only to reporters but on his Twitter account as well, is coincidental to Whitlock's earlier comments and columns.

Don't you?

Coogs · 10-05-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Take out Cassel's scrambling and what did the RB's average? LJ averaged 2.9 ypc.

There is also a 24 yard carry by Charles on the last play of the game that really inflates the rushing average as well. Take out that 24 yard run AND Cassels scrambling yardage, and our rushing game is pretty modest at best.

**ChiTown** · 10-05-2009, 01:10 PM

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There is also a 24 yard carry by Charles on the last play of the game that really inflates the rushing average as well. Take out that 24 yard run AND Cassels scrambling yardage, and our rushing game still blows chunks

fyp

Coogs · 10-05-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

fyp

Thanks!

htismaqe · 10-05-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Who gives a **** about this team

That's actually a GREAT question.

Titty Meat · 10-05-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's actually a GREAT question.

Sorry I just can't go at it with anyone on here about this team thats lost like 30 of its last 36 games. I will say though its funny of all people LJ talks about ego.

keg in kc · 10-05-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's cool.

But from an outsider's point of view, it's difficult for me to believe that LJ's comment, made not only to reporters but on his Twitter account as well, is coincidental to Whitlock's earlier comments and columns.

Don't you?

You're free to make whatever assumptions you want, but, like I said, I have no idea what LJ was talking about it. I didn't see the interview and I don't know what he was replying to. In any case, this would certainly not be the first time I've had no idea what LJ was talking about.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

You're free to make whatever assumptions you want, but, like I said, I have no idea what LJ was talking about it. I didn't see the interview and I don't know what he was replying to. In any case, this would certainly not be the first time I've had no idea what LJ was talking about.

Occam's Razor: The simplest explanation is most likely to be correct.

Whitlock constantly writes about Pioli and Haley's ego.

Grunhard talks about Pioli and Haley's ego.

Jeff Chahida, an SI writer, states on radio last week that it's well known that Pioli and Haley have large egos.

After yesterday's loss, LJ attributed it to "ego". He said it not once, but five times.

LJ also Tweeted "Ego" for the entire world to see.

I find it extremely difficult to believe that this is in any way, shape or form, a coincidence.

Coach · 10-05-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Sorry I just can't go at it with anyone on here about this team thats lost like 30 of its last 36 games. I will say though its funny of all people LJ talks about ego.

Well, to put this in perspective, if the Chiefs lose this coming Sunday, they will tie the expansion Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the worst 30 game stretch in NFL history with a 2-28 record.

**morphius** · 10-05-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Occam's Razor: The simplest explanation is most likely to be correct.

Whitlock constantly writes about Pioli and Haley's ego.

Grunhard talks about Pioli and Haley's ego.

Jeff Chahida, an SI writer, states on radio last week that it's well known that Pioli and Haley have large egos.

After yesterday's loss, LJ attributed it to "ego". He said it not once, but five times.

LJ also Tweeted "Ego" for the entire world to see.

I find it extremely difficult to believe that this is in any way, shape or form, a coincidence.

Also you can toss in, reporters are lazy when it comes to bad teams they don't care about and its easier just to parrot what one guy says then to do the work yourself.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 02:41 PM

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Also you can toss in, reporters are lazy when it comes to bad teams they don't care about and its easier just to parrot what one guy says then to do the work yourself.

So, you're of the opinion that everyone just "ran with" the ego thing? No one else other than Whitlock has experienced it firsthand? It's just all a fabrication, so much so that LJ joined in the foray?

I'm sorry, I find that extremely hard to believe. Man, a lot of you guys sure are jaded when it comes to sports reporting.

No offense.

Tiger's Fan · 10-05-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, you're of the opinion that everyone just "ran with" the ego thing? No one else other than Whitlock has experienced it firsthand? It's just all a fabrication, so much so that LJ joined in the foray?

I'm sorry, I find that extremely hard to believe. Man, a lot of you guys sure are jaded when it comes to sports reporting.

No offense.

What would a bunch of local hacks have to be bitter about by being shut out of the loop at 1 Arrowhead?

The fact of the matter is, Nick Athan has practically as much access to the team as anyone else in legit media. These guys (Hayley/Pioli) will be roasted daily until they win something. And I'm sure they don't give a ****.

Reading anything into it equates to believeing in anything they had to say when they were sucking Carls cock off.

As far as LJs concerned, no one knows what context he's even using the phrase, without guessing. The game got kinda chippy yesterday. My guess is it was a reference to the Giants talking shit, which they can. Or, he's pissed about not being given the rock in the redzone, when he's had enough failure of his own down there.

Ordinarily, no one gives a damn what LJ has to say. I guess he has his uses.

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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8119900	What were your impressions of the game? The game wasn't on in my market yesterday and radio coverage was spotty all day, so I only heard portions of the game. Who played well? Who didn't? Were there any surprises? For example, it sounded to me like maybe Big Irish at RT was what most of us expected - a little better at run blocking, a little worse at pass blocking. Give me your take.
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bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	What I saw: (1) Offensive line played better. Not great, by any stretch. Hell, probably not even good, but better. (2) Larry Johnson had nearly 50 yards rushing in the first half. However, I attribute it to sheer persistence from the coaches to make sure we finally got some positive yards running the ball. Granted, LJ was probably -25 yards rushing in the 2nd half. There was no creativity, no real continuity between running and passing, just 50 yards rushing. In odd fashion, we never tried to take advantage of it with play action passing. (3) The front 7 played well for about 2 series. Once, forcing a fumble. I thought the secondary played well. But, I've thought they played pretty well all year. (4) The linebackers suck. It's almost as if they're not even there. (5) Outside of the sack and fumble recovery, Manning had plenty of time to throw the ball. (6) Cassel looked bad. It was hard to use the "he never had any time" excuse this week because he had time on a number of occasions. Not every occasion, but he had his chances for sure. He overthrew Bowe for a sure-fire TD. He underthrew Engram (or was it Wade?) for a sure-fire TD. He was behind on slants and way in front on outs. He looked pretty bad. (7) I hate to complain about playcalling because I think playcalling is subject to execution almost exclusively. However, I will say that I never understood our run, run, run, run, run approach until we get to the 1 yard line. Then we go to shotgun and try and throw the ball. Plus, as mentioned, if we're going to run that much, we should throw in some play action. (8) Colquitt is awesome. I bet his leg is sore today. __________________ "It is not enough that I succeed; everyone else must fail."
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