Pioli already knows who he's going to draft. - Page 8

googlegoogle · 03-01-2010, 04:13 PM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=5669684

Mecca · 03-02-2010, 03:33 AM

Yea well I drafted Percy Harvin so yea!

Hootie · 03-02-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea well I drafted Percy Harvin so yea!

chiefscountry did not have a good mock

Mecca · 03-02-2010, 03:50 AM

It's not easy to have a good one if you have teams with low picks or someone in front of you makes weird picks.

Consistent1 · 03-02-2010, 04:28 AM

**Dave Lane** · 03-02-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

So far, my dislikes for the new regime are outnumbering my dislikes from the previous one.

That can definitely change, but so far my hope is dwindeling.

This maybe the single dumbest post on the planet. Seriously you think Carl / Herm > Pioli / Haley?

Wow...

**BossChief** · 03-02-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

This maybe the single dumbest post on the planet. Seriously you think Carl / Herm > Pioli / Haley?

Wow...

if you cant read and successfully comprehend what you are reading, you shouldnt try.

That isnt even remotely what that post meant.

thanks for playing

KCrockaholic · 03-02-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Consistent1

This reminds me...I was at a sports card store, and some Donk fan was trying to pimp up this Tyson Jackson, jersey insert card for like 20 bucks or something stupid. He was talking like it was something special. I felt like asking him "how stupid do you think I am?" He then went on to say Jackson is by far better than Glenn Dorsey....

Dumbass Donk fans out here...I swear.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-02-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

More Pioli ass kissing.

You are so ****ing duplicitous.

And big ****ing surprise, you're the one who is making a mountain out of an imaginary mohill. Yes, it's definitely true that Scott Pioli, who is ever-present during the combine doesn't give a shit about the combine because... he said so in his interview. I heard he's sitting in the corner with his headphones on listening to Tupac and flipping people off.

Nothing I said was wrong. The combine is overrated. Teams find a few surprises and, if you do, then yes you take an extra look at the guy. But you talk about interviews... you think the scouts haven't done that already? You think the scouts haven't interviewed every single last person that knows a good prospect? They probably even know what color briefs prospects wear.

So yes, I'd rather the scouts be the most influential people in the process than a GM that is probably seeing these guys for the first time at the Senior Bowl or Combine. The Combine is meant to either confirm or refute what scouts have already seen. And if it refutes, you take an extra look. But the majority of the homework is already done. That's not unique to the Chiefs. That is the way almost every franchise runs their scouting operations. Why do you think the Chiefs had such a shitty draft in 2009? Because Pioli stupidly froze his scouts out and decided he was going to make all of his decisions based on the senior bowl and combine. Stupid decision.

ChiefsCountry · 03-02-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

chiefscountry did not have a good mock

Cowboys draft was pretty darn good. Bengals sucked dick, mainly bc we started too early - players changed way too much.

Chiefnj2 · 03-02-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Nothing I said was wrong. The combine is overrated. Teams find a few surprises and, if you do, then yes you take an extra look at the guy. But you talk about interviews... you think the scouts haven't done that already? You think the scouts haven't interviewed every single last person that knows a good prospect? They probably even know what color briefs prospects wear.

So yes, I'd rather the scouts be the most influential people in the process than a GM that is probably seeing these guys for the first time at the Senior Bowl or Combine. The Combine is meant to either confirm or refute what scouts have already seen. And if it refutes, you take an extra look. But the majority of the homework is already done. That's not unique to the Chiefs. That is the way almost every franchise runs their scouting operations. Why do you think the Chiefs had such a shitty draft in 2009? Because Pioli stupidly froze his scouts out and decided he was going to make all of his decisions based on the senior bowl and combine. Stupid decision.

I'd say you're pretty much correct. I recall one GM saying the Scout interviews during the school year were the most important. By the time the teams interview prospects at the combine the players have all retained agents who have coached them to say the right things.

**dirk digler** · 03-02-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

if you cant read and successfully comprehend what you are reading, you shouldnt try.

That isnt even remotely what that post meant.

thanks for playing

So what did you mean by the quote below because that is how I took it as well?

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So far, my dislikes for the new regime are outnumbering my dislikes from the previous one.

ChiefsCountry · 03-02-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

chiefscountry did not have a good mock

Yeah this one sure sucked
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=mock+draft

Or this one
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=mock+draft

Or this one
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=mock+draft

Or this one
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=mock+draft

Or this one
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=mock+draft

Hootie · 03-02-2010, 10:00 PM

what are you talking about?

I'm just talking about your picks in the mock draft last year...

They were GOD awful.

I can make a mock with all the 1st rounders going to the Chiefs for the 1st 7 rounds too...

**The Bad Guy** · 03-02-2010, 10:04 PM

Why would anyone argue that the combine is more valuable than game film and scouting?

The combine is a dog and pony show. It's entertaining, and it helps some guys, but otherwise the game film and interview process should be the main areas of examination for every NFL GM and scout.

ChiefsCountry · 03-02-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

what are you talking about?

I'm just talking about your picks in the mock draft last year...

They were GOD awful.

I can make a mock with all the 1st rounders going to the Chiefs for the 1st 7 rounds too...

Those were all my final Chiefs mocks before the last drafts up to 2005.

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