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Coach Todd Haley will be moving into the final year of his contract next year, and while general manager Scott Pioli wouldn’t say whether the Chiefs would extend his contract, his comments seemed to indicate they would.

Pioli praised Haley on Monday in an interview with The Kansas City Star.

“I think he’s doing a good job of growing into the job,” Pioli said. “He’s adjusted well to changes in personnel, changes in roster. He’s adjusted well to staff changes. This team has continued to evolve and continued to develop. Players have developed well. That’s Todd and the whole coaching staff.”

Echoing comments made recently by Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt, Pioli also said he has a good relationship with Haley.

“I think it’s a good working relationship. I really do,” Pioli said. “We’re both focused on the same thing, which is winning football games.”

Asked whether they work well enough together to allow the Chiefs to win a Super Bowl, Pioli said yes.

“Absolutely,” Pioli said. “We talk often. Our approach hasn’t changed in terms of the way and the amount of communication from two years ago, a year ago. It’s the same. It hasn’t changed in terms of the volume or anything else.”

Pioli said he meets with Haley regularly during the season to discuss roster needs for upcoming games. The 4-4 Chiefs are tied for first place with Oakland and San Diego in the AFC West and play the 3-5 Broncos on Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium.

“We make sure we have solid communication, particularly right after a game, the Monday and the Tuesday,” Pioli said. “We evaluate performance and where we’re at as far as health and where we are for the upcoming game. We’ll talk about the game plan for the upcoming game and then what we’re going to do as far as roster makeup.”

The Chiefs have a regular-season record of 18-22 halfway through Haley’s third season. They finished 4-12 in 2009, his first year with the Chiefs, and then last season went 10-6 and won their first division title in seven years.

This year, the Chiefs started 0-3, losing their first two games by a combined 79 points. By the time they finished their second game of the season, a 48-3 defeat at Detroit, the Chiefs had lost safety Eric Berry, running back Jamaal Charles and tight end Tony Moeaki for the year with knee injuries.

But the Chiefs rallied to win four straight games before falling to 4-4 with Sunday’s 31-3 loss to previously winless Miami.

Pioli indicated he wasn’t tempted to fire Haley or otherwise get discouraged when the Chiefs started the season so poorly.


“I didn’t think that was who we were when we were 0-2, and that’s why I’m not surprised when we were able to continue to improve and begin to play good football,” Pioli said. “What you don’t want to do is get caught up in the dramatic swing of any one game or two games. I don’t think you can evaluate that small a portion of the season. That’s one-eighth of the season.

“I believe we have a good football team and a good coaching staff. We have a good, young football team that is continuing to develop.”

Haley, at his news conference Monday, called the first half of the season “adventurous” for the Chiefs. They’ve been outscored by 70 points even though they’ve won as many games as they’ve lost.

“It’s been a different set of encyclopedias from the start,” Haley said. “Everybody’s had the same challenges, with the lack of offseason and some of those things. I think it has led to a unique year thus far. I said that in training camp, that I thought it would be a wild ride, and it hasn’t disappointed.”

Haley said he hoped the Chiefs’ performances would be more even over the season’s second half. Including the game against Miami, the Chiefs have lost three games by four or more touchdowns.

“Consistency is the key to being a good team or a great team,” Haley said. “Very rarely do you see a team that’s inconsistent be one of the last teams standing. Consistency is going to be one of those things that we’re really going to work hard on in all areas.

“We’ve got a team that’s still developing and still getting better and is still a work in progress. I’m excited about these guys.”
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:25 AM   #106
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...or it could like he said...he wanted to go coach with his son because it had been a life long dream.
Or that.

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Old 11-09-2011, 01:51 AM   #107
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Early in his NFL career, Haley is fetching coffee for Weis. Then, as the years pass, Weis fails miserably as a head coach and is fired from ND so he takes a job working for Haley. At first, it sounds like an okay idea, but eventually, Weis' ego freaks out on him and he simply can't handle being reminded of his utter failure so he convinces Cassel that throwing super high is the key to success in the league and splits town.

How about that?

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Old 11-09-2011, 06:39 AM   #108
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I have to agree FAX. If KC had a stud QB the entire team would be better on both sides of the ball. If KC had a stud Rush the passer DE and QB this team would contend for the bowl once everyone gets healthy. I'd also like to see a shut down Corner with Flowers matched against the number two receiver and Carr the Nickel with Arenas backing up.

This team is only two or three KEY players away from being damn good.
The Chiefs have more than enough pieces. You're never going to get everything perfect.

Their offensive line is better than New Orleans. Their RBs are better than New Orleans (were a HELL of a lot better last year). Their defense is a HELL of a lot better than New Orleans. Their receivers are better than New Orleans. New Orleans has better tight ends, but that only started happening this year. What I just said goes also for New England. I would argue that our talent isn't even that far off from Green Bay.

It's amazing what a great QB can do for this team.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:04 AM   #109
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The playcalling fiasco... no excuse for that.

I always wondered if Haley would manage games differently with a different QB. Does he milk time at the end of first halves because of poor clock management, or does he just have that little faith in his QB to not make a pick-6? Did he take a ton of chances on 4th down in the past because he's arrogantly aggressive, or did he do that because he knew he couldn't win without a few lucky bounces? Is the offensive playcalling notoriously conservative? Or is it just because he's doing everything he can to take the ball out of Cassel's hands?

The Cardinals had a sound offensive gameplan. You wonder what Haley's game plan / game management looks like under a very good QB. I just don't think you can fire him until you know this.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:19 AM   #110
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Or this ...

Early in his NFL career, Haley is fetching coffee for Weis. Then, as the years pass, Weis fails miserably as a head coach and is fired from ND so he takes a job working for Haley. At first, it sounds like an okay idea, but eventually, Weis' ego freaks out on him and he simply can't handle being reminded of his utter failure so he convinces Cassel that throwing super high is the key to success in the league and splits town.

How about that?

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Old 11-09-2011, 08:28 AM   #111
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Weis shows up early for work after a late night trying to get out of his pants. He's slightly hungover, extremely groggy and has missed second breakfast. Hunger strikes and strikes hard. In his semi-conscious state, Weis mistakenly eats Haley's commemorative Super Bowl football. When Haley finds out what has happened, he kicks Weis in the gut causing his gall bladder to explode. Weis is rushed to surgery. Meanwhile, Haley trades two Arrowhead season tickets to the surgeon in exchange for leaving a scar on Weis' belly that reads, "I'm a stupid fat bastard." in cursive script. After leaving the hospital it takes Weis several weeks before he can lift his belly sufficiently high to read the surgeon's handwriting at which point Weis gets all pissy and decides to leave.

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:22 AM   #112
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This is another one of those "well what the hell do you expect him to say" type of things.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:25 AM   #113
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Not really.

He doesn't simply endorse Haley, he elaborates on it to an extent.

That excludes it as a "Well, what the hell do you epect him to say" type of things.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:24 PM   #114
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Once again for all you ****ing idiots who clearly don't have a job. If you have a boss who asks you to do somehting his way, you do it or get the **** out. Haley is the head coach. He's the boss.

If he expects his underling, Charlie Weis to so something his way, Charlie Weis does that thing Haley's way. If he couldn't do that, he needs to get the **** out.
and once again Milktard is such a asshat that he's not even discussion the same issue as everyone else.

Yes, the boss gets to decide what happens. Nobody is arguing that, you moron. I'll try and talk slow so your senile old ass can keep up.

The ... issue ... isn't ... about ... who ... had ... authority ... about ... the ... offense. It's ... about ... making ... the ... right ... decisions.

can you comprehend, you idiot,inbred POS?

Haley decided to fire gailey ... his decision. But was it the right one?

Haley and Weis couldn't co-exist so naturally Weis is the one that leaves. But is it the right decision.

Cassel isn't a great QB but he was clearly better under weis.

is Haley part of the problem or part of the solution?

watching the offense now suggest that Haley made the wrong decisions because the offense now looks like it's coached by the 3 stooges.


So the ultimate issue is about ... when we get a new/better quarterback, do we want an incompetent offensive coaching staff developing him?

oh, and can somebody hold milkman's hand and try to keep that ****ing fool on topic since he can't seem to stay focused about it.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:10 PM   #115
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and once again Milktard is such a asshat that he's not even discussion the same issue as everyone else.

Yes, the boss gets to decide what happens. Nobody is arguing that, you moron. I'll try and talk slow so your senile old ass can keep up.

The ... issue ... isn't ... about ... who ... had ... authority ... about ... the ... offense. It's ... about ... making ... the ... right ... decisions.

can you comprehend, you idiot,inbred POS?

Haley decided to fire gailey ... his decision. But was it the right one?

Haley and Weis couldn't co-exist so naturally Weis is the one that leaves. But is it the right decision.

Cassel isn't a great QB but he was clearly better under weis.

is Haley part of the problem or part of the solution?

watching the offense now suggest that Haley made the wrong decisions because the offense now looks like it's coached by the 3 stooges.


So the ultimate issue is about ... when we get a new/better quarterback, do we want an incompetent offensive coaching staff developing him?

oh, and can somebody hold milkman's hand and try to keep that ****ing fool on topic since he can't seem to stay focused about it.
You are a ****ing reeruned ****. Man you need your ass beat. Milk obviously was responding directly to the reeruned comments of Fitz and anyone else who is stupid enough to agree with the drivel he spews. The content on Fitz's post was about Haley running off quality OC's. Which isn't at all true, no matter how you look at it.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:20 PM   #116
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and once again Milktard is such a asshat that he's not even discussion the same issue as everyone else.

Yes, the boss gets to decide what happens. Nobody is arguing that, you moron. I'll try and talk slow so your senile old ass can keep up.

The ... issue ... isn't ... about ... who ... had ... authority ... about ... the ... offense. It's ... about ... making ... the ... right ... decisions.

can you comprehend, you idiot,inbred POS?

Haley decided to fire gailey ... his decision. But was it the right one?

Haley and Weis couldn't co-exist so naturally Weis is the one that leaves. But is it the right decision.

Cassel isn't a great QB but he was clearly better under weis.

is Haley part of the problem or part of the solution?

watching the offense now suggest that Haley made the wrong decisions because the offense now looks like it's coached by the 3 stooges.


So the ultimate issue is about ... when we get a new/better quarterback, do we want an incompetent offensive coaching staff developing him?

oh, and can somebody hold milkman's hand and try to keep that ****ing fool on topic since he can't seem to stay focused about it.
Whether or not it was the right decision, you dumbass, it still comes down to one simple fact.

Todd Haley is the HC.

Chan Gailey and Charlie Weis both worked for Todd Haley.

I believe that it was a mistake to fire Gailey, and I think that dumbasses like you give Weis credit for something that is absolutely false specifically that he did anything that made Cassel look better.

The weak teams on the schedule did that.

I don't give a rat's ass that his useless ass is gone.

Bottom line, however, is that they both worked for Haley and it was their responsibillity to adapt to Haley.

Now, if you want to argue that Pioli should have fired Haley before he let Haley chase off either, that's an entirely different discussion.

I'm absolutely on topic.

You're just too ****ing stupid to recognize that.
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I believe that it was a mistake to fire Gailey, and I think that dumbasses like you give Weis credit for something that is absolutely false specifically that he did anything that made Cassel look better.

The weak teams on the schedule did that.

I don't give a rat's ass that his useless ass is gone.

Bottom line, however, is that they both worked for Haley and it was their responsibillity to adapt to Haley.

Now, if you want to argue that Pioli should have fired Haley before he let Haley chase off either, that's an entirely different discussion.
In view of that, does Weis have enough juice in the scooter, to make the haul from Lawrence to Arrowhead?
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I believe that it was a mistake to fire Gailey, and I think that dumbasses like you give Weis credit for something that is absolutely false specifically that he did anything that made Cassel look better.
It was a mistake to expect Haley to work with Gailey in the first place. When you gut the staff, you GUT the staff. Don't keep the dingle berries around, wipe it clean...
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