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**Tribal Warfare** · 02-23-2013, 03:32 PM

Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position.

“Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there.

“There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’

58-4ever · 02-23-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

I've got news for you.

The top 10 rated left tackles on PFF:

Joe Staley - SF
Duane Brown - HOU
Michael Roos - TEN
Ryan Clady - DEN
Joe Thomas - CLE
DaBrick - NYJ
Andrew Whitworth - CIN
Jared Veldheer - OAK
William Beatty - NYG
Eugene Monroe - JAX

Half of them are on losing teams.

The ones who are on winning teams: Staley, Brown, Clady, Whitworth and Beatty. Their quarterbacks are all playmakers.

Kewl. What is your point?

Hammock Parties · 02-23-2013, 05:59 PM

And to add to that, here are the 5 worst left tackles:

Max Starks - PIT
Michael Oher - BAL
Marshall Newhouse - GB
Jeff Backus - DET
J'Marcus Webb - CHI

There's a 10 win team, an 11 win team and a SUPER BOWL CHAMPION on that list.

Bitch, **** left tackles.

O.city · 02-23-2013, 05:59 PM

I find it hard that Joeckel is BPA when he may not even be BP at his own position.

penbrook · 02-23-2013, 05:59 PM

Exactly. Our qbs were so ****ing terrible. A fact: out of 32 starting qbs Cassell was rated 57 and Quinn 63 I believe.

Hammock Parties · 02-23-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever

Kewl. What is your point?

Read my last two posts.

Absolutely zero correlation between having a top LT and having a winning team.

B14ckmon · 02-23-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Like, unbelievably.

Don't you ever consider how Boxxy would most likely find you creepy as **** if she knew who you were?

chiefsfan_91 · 02-23-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

You're a misinformed, true fan mongoloid.

Bro, football is my job. Just because I don't buy into the Madden generation mumbojumbo that most people seem to spew on this forum doesn't mean I am misinformed. I guarantee you that a guy like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees couldn't win in Arizona right now. The only reason that the Raven even made it to the Super Bowl this year is their OL play. Joe Flacco is not a good QB. He was made to look good by his OL and his running game. Just like Trent Dilfer in 2000. Just like Jim McMahon in 85, Rich Gannon with the Raiders, and countless others. QBs don't win games people. Teams do

58-4ever · 02-23-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Read my last two posts.

Absolutely zero correlation between having a top LT and having a winning team.

Awesome. Good point Clay.

B14ckmon · 02-23-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Read my last two posts.

Absolutely zero correlation between having a top LT and having a winning team.

Also very little correlation between college success and nfl success when it comes to QBs. But that hasn't stopped the Geno obsessions.

58-4ever · 02-23-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Read my last two posts.

Absolutely zero correlation between having a top LT and having a winning team.

I think that's obvious. I was the one that said we have two of the top 32 in the league... and we won 2 games.

Sorter · 02-23-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever

I don't know about 'fine', as we need to fill holes. However, we don't need to reach at number one to create depth. Number 1 is for play makers.

Wrong.

For ****s sake people, when playing with Kyle Orton, Barry Richardson, the ****ing afterbirth of pass blocking RTs in the NFL didn't give up a single sack. Against Oakland, Denver, and GB, teams that despite their deficiencies defensively, all get after the passer relatively well.

People either A) Don't understand how ****ing historically bad Cassel has been and B) How much average QB play can help your offensive line play.

Hammock Parties · 02-23-2013, 06:02 PM

Additionally:

The Indianapolis Colts had one of the worst pass blocking tackles in football last season. Anthony Castonzo was ranked 50th out of 57 tackles in pass protection. Easy schedule or not, 11 wins, and a ****ton of passing yards.

Sorter · 02-23-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan_91

Bro, football is my job. Just because I don't buy into the Madden generation mumbojumbo that most people seem to spew on this forum doesn't mean I am misinformed. I guarantee you that a guy like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees couldn't win in Arizona right now. The only reason that the Raven even made it to the Super Bowl this year is their OL play. Joe Flacco is not a good QB. He was made to look good by his OL and his running game. Just like Trent Dilfer in 2000. Just like Jim McMahon in 85, Rich Gannon with the Raiders, and countless others. QBs don't win games people. Teams do

You're beyond deficient mentally.

Sorter · 02-23-2013, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan_91

Bro, football is my job. Just because I don't buy into the Madden generation mumbojumbo that most people seem to spew on this forum doesn't mean I am misinformed. I guarantee you that a guy like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees couldn't win in Arizona right now. The only reason that the Raven even made it to the Super Bowl this year is their OL play. Joe Flacco is not a good QB. He was made to look good by his OL and his running game. Just like Trent Dilfer in 2000. Just like Jim McMahon in 85, Rich Gannon with the Raiders, and countless others. QBs don't win games people. Teams do

Please, tell us all about your football job! We're all super intrigued!

B14ckmon · 02-23-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Additionally:

The Indianapolis Colts had one of the worst pass blocking tackles in football last season. Anthony Castonzo was ranked 50th out of 57 tackles in pass protection. Easy schedule or not, 11 wins, and a ****ton of passing yards.

Luck was far more mediocre than people like to think. Hype train propaganda.

He had a shitload of yards passing because he threw the ball more than most QBs ever do.

02-23-2013, 03:32 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2867187	Teicher: Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position. “Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there. “There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’ Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston. “They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $930478	And to add to that, here are the 5 worst left tackles: Max Starks - PIT Michael Oher - BAL Marshall Newhouse - GB Jeff Backus - DET J'Marcus Webb - CHI There's a 10 win team, an 11 win team and a SUPER BOWL CHAMPION on that list. Bitch, **** left tackles. __________________ Chiefs game films
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-605936	I find it hard that Joeckel is BPA when he may not even be BP at his own position.
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penbrook LEGEND! Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10033840	Exactly. Our qbs were so ****ing terrible. A fact: out of 32 starting qbs Cassell was rated 57 and Quinn 63 I believe.
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02-23-2013, 06:02 PM	#117
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $930478	Additionally: The Indianapolis Colts had one of the worst pass blocking tackles in football last season. Anthony Castonzo was ranked 50th out of 57 tackles in pass protection. Easy schedule or not, 11 wins, and a ****ton of passing yards. __________________ Chiefs game films
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