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Old 04-20-2020, 12:17 AM  
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Peter King Mock: heard a rumor that the Chiefs want to trade up
for Ruggs if he falls into the twenties (not happening anyways).


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ia-peter-king/


Just thought it was interesting because it’s Peter King who’s reliable.

He has us taking Jeff Gladney

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32. Kansas City—Jeff Gladney, cornerback, TCU

Craziest rumor of the first round: Chiefs want to trade up for Henry Ruggs if he falls into the twenties. Insane. Do they want every sub 4.35 guy in the National Football League? A couple of theories: There are only two very good cover corners in this draft, Okudah and Henderson, and they’d be long gone by the time the Chiefs could make a reasonable offer. Sammy Watkins is a short-termer, probably only one more year in KC, so another quick-twitch guy would fit either this year or next. Finally, fast guys with slight builds who collide with defenders tend to get hurt, so Ruggs would be good insurance for that in 2020 and a stalwart beyond that.

Anyhoo, the Chiefs’ biggest position of need right now is corner, and Gladney is a competitive and tough player who would fit in Steve Spagnuolo’s scheme.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:06 PM   #106
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Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.

Queen or Murray as well.
You can sell me on the other guys dropping, Simmons is an elite athlete, Derrick Johnson didn't have what he has.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:08 PM   #107
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You can sell me on the other guys dropping, Simmons is an elite athlete, Derrick Johnson didn't have what he has.
Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL. Myles Jack has been struggling to find a home too.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:09 PM   #108
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Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL. Myles Jack has been struggling to find a home too.
Dude if you go look at the athletic scores, Simmons rates as an elite athlete at 3 different positions.

Myles Jack is actually you know, really good, I wish our LB's struggled like that.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:11 PM   #109
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Peter King literally broke the news that we were in love with Marcus Peters in his one and only mock days before the draft like this one...
He also broke the news on that ball of shit, Tyson Jackson
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He also broke the news on that ball of shit, Tyson Jackson
And as somebody discovered, he had us trading for Clark last year. But he knows nothing!
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:14 PM   #111
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I think it's fair to say that King has connections to the Chiefs. He has been right about some very specific things lately.
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Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:15 PM   #113
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Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:16 PM   #114
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If you want to compare a LB to DJ coming out, athletically and all that it's Queen, he's an uber athlete that is a bit undersized and isn't a big fan of taking on blockers as he goes around them and dips under...

It's not ****ing Simmons.
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He also broke the news on that ball of shit, Tyson Jackson
WOW..there's a name I haven't heard in forever.
Like, I literally completely forgot about Tyson. wasn't he like #3 overall or something.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:17 PM   #116
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Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

A lot of that has to do with the fatalistic attitude of we Chiefs' fans.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:21 PM   #117
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Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

A lot of that has to do with the fatalistic attitude of we Chiefs' fans.
Over the years we've learned that off the ball LB's don't get picked super high if they have question marks.
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This rumor reminds me of when the Chiefs were reportedly willing to trade up for Laquon Treadwell a few years ago. We never got to know if and how much that was true.

In this case, I can believe that Veach and Reid really like Ruggs but the chances that they make any significant trade up for him is extremely slim IMO.

It seems like a trade up would cost something like their 2nd round pick. I really don't see it.

Plus, from what I've read on Ruggs, he seems to bring a bit more of the same that Hill and Hardman bring to the table. It's not like he would bring a new dimension to the offense.
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Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.
Prove it
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They only way this makes sense is if they scouted next years crop of WRs and didn't see anyone they liked.

Veach has shown he is aggressive when there is a player he likes... both with money and draft resources. Speaks, Mathieu, Clark, Watkins...and Mahomes (Dorsey).

Obviously, there is a lot of communication with Reid and Spagnuolo. They know what they have and what they need...

Mahomes is Veach's professional crown jewel...the pick of a lifetime. He is always going to aggressively to supply him with weapons.. which as a fan is fun to experience.

He caught a lot of ridicule for saying "He's the best player I've ever seen" before Mahomes was even starting....so I think there is a little of "prove you wrong" vindication in him.

I think the deal would have to include next's years #32.

This move would free up $14 million next year (not resigning Watkins)...then you subtract an additional 2021 1st round contract. Money is going to be tight in the future...

5 years of Ruggs is, financially, about the cost of a single season of Watkins...there is a chance to get a 3rd comp if Watkins signs a big deal. Chiefs probably arent going to be big spenders next season...

The other boon is the Chiefs offense will be nasty this year....
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