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Old 12-25-2023, 03:13 PM  
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Old 12-26-2023, 07:34 PM   #106
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Don't blame them. Talent deficiency kills the playbook. Nagy was awesome in 2017 when we had weapons. Well until Alex went fetal.

Get the weapons and the points will come
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Old 12-26-2023, 07:47 PM   #107
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Morris 10
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****s sake, the fact they expected Morris to last out on an island is lunacy.
I was in the game thread going ape shit that Morris was literally costing us the game.
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Old 12-27-2023, 09:16 AM   #108
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Nagy, Bieniemy and Pederson all look like different flavors of Andy Reid over the years.

Bieniemy looks so much like Nagy from 2017 and it's likely because it's the same exact situation. Lot of weapons that can help the limited QB but as the season went on teams caught on and you couldn't help the QB with scheme anymore.

Pederson looks like a bit similar to 2017 Nagy too, but also 2016 Andy with Alex. This guy has helped Lawrence so much from scheme to talent and the guy just can't get it done. You could see that in NY last season with Kafka too.

Nagy this year look like Nagy in Chicago bc just like in Chicago there was very little talent to run his scheme. Patrick isn't limited by any means but the talent on offense sure as hell is.

It's weird saying one is so much better than the others bc it's the same based on situation. Watch the highlights of those teams and you'll see an Andy Reid concept from a year he was here come up frequently.

The same thing is said about the Shannahan tree. Look at McVay and especially Mike MacDaniels in Miami. It's the same scheme but with a slight twist to it.
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Old 12-27-2023, 11:03 AM   #109
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If you must have a sacrificial goat. I don't see how Nagy would satisfy. It won't
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:04 PM   #111
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You know what would be an interesting approach? To hire Josh McDaniels as the new OC. Yeah, he is a shitty head coach and equally as shitty of a human being but the guy is an elite playcaller.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:13 PM   #112
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Idk, but they were involved in personnel decisions and in developing these players. So yeah...do your job as a coach and coach them to be better and put them in positions of success.

If EVERYBODY on the offense was a **** up, how is coaching not responsible?

It's not like these are players Reid and Nagy walked in to and they just had to make the best of it. These are their handpicked players. You don't to hand pick players, train them all off season, and then when they all fail or regress in the season, act like you had nothing to do with it.
The buck stops with Andy. I think Veach & Nagy are both Andy's puppets. The high school age WR coach was Andy's choice as well.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:19 PM   #113
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:26 PM   #114
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The buck stops with Andy. I think Veach & Nagy are both Andy's puppets. The high school age WR coach was Andy's choice as well.
If EB was OC and producing this bowel movement of an offense I'd love know what everybody would be saying... Oh wait go back to the GDT from the afc championship game 2 years ago
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You know what would be an interesting approach? To hire Josh McDaniels as the new OC. Yeah, he is a shitty head coach and equally as shitty of a human being but the guy is an elite playcaller.
Fugg no! Elite play caller? Keep that jack off away from here.
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Old 12-27-2023, 02:58 PM   #116
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You know what would be an interesting approach? To hire Josh McDaniels as the new OC. Yeah, he is a shitty head coach and equally as shitty of a human being but the guy is an elite playcaller.
Why? Is Lane Kiffin not available?

Same dislikeable dude. I can't see Andy sharing duties with anyone like that.
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The buck stops with Andy. I think Veach & Nagy are both Andy's puppets. The high school age WR coach was Andy's choice as well.
You're not gonna fire Andy Reid. You can fire Nagy, Embree and Heck.
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You're not gonna fire Andy Reid. You can fire Nagy, Embree and Heck.
Andy is not gonna fire those guys. Gotta hope they can find better players, but I'm not super confident about that after the poor evaluations on MVS, Toney, Skyy Moore, Hardman, Jawaan Taylor, etc.
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Andy is not gonna fire those guys. Gotta hope they can find better players, but I'm not super confident about that after the poor evaluations on MVS, Toney, Skyy Moore, Hardman, Jawaan Taylor, etc.
Same people bitched and moaned for Andy to fire Toub last year bc ST's struggled due to Butker's injury and Skyy being a terrible returner with no experience.

Now our ST's looks like one of the best in the league this year.

Same people wanted Bieniemy fired 2 years ago. Nagy's the target this year.
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Same people bitched and moaned for Andy to fire Toub last year bc ST's struggled due to Butker's injury and Skyy being a terrible returner with no experience.

Now our ST's looks like one of the best in the league this year.

Same people wanted Bieniemy fired 2 years ago. Nagy's the target this year.
Not true... Nagy is the target because he terrible.
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