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cmh6476 · 02:14 PM

In case anyone needs it spelled out, we would play at a neutral site if the AFCCG ends up being Chiefs vs. Bills. All other scenarios abide by the usual rules (so any other game the Chiefs play will be at home).

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staylor26 · 01-04-2023, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

You keep saying "football doesn't matter right now."

Have I ever said that? Have I ever implied it?

I just think it's a massive ask to get an entire organization to process what just happened and have a relatively quick turnaround to hop on a plane and play a football game.

So give them some more time and let them play the game. And if they're unwilling to do it, give them the forfeit. Please. I would happily take that.

It's not about you.

It's about the Bills response to resuming the game.

They could've resumed the game this week, and they clearly don't want to. That's fine, but you CAN' T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

Balto · 01-04-2023, 10:07 AM

I’m also wondering how much pressure Roger is giving to Bills and Bengals ownership behind closed doors.

Would make everything sooooo much easier if Bills just agreed to a forfeit because it would be the “best for the NFL”. Wonder if other owners get involved and give Bills/Bengals a call

**DaFace** · 01-04-2023, 10:07 AM

This thread got weird. Not unexpected, but weird.

Eleazar · 01-04-2023, 10:07 AM

Doctors saw promising signs of progress overnight from Damar Hamlin, who remained hospitalized in critical condition as of Wednesday morning, according to a friend and business partner of the Buffalo Bills safety.https://t.co/yd90xXvHL1
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 4, 2023

smithandrew051 · 01-04-2023, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

You keep saying "football doesn't matter right now."

Have I ever said that? Have I ever implied it?

I just think it's a massive ask to get an entire organization to process what just happened and have a relatively quick turnaround to hop on a plane and play a football game.

So give them some more time and let them play the game. And if they're unwilling to do it, give them the forfeit. Please. I would happily take that.

You have to have some sort of defined timeframe for this though, right?

It can’t just be an indefinite period of time until the Bills are ready. Is it 1 additional week? 2?

TwistedChief · 01-04-2023, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It's not about you.

It's about the Bills response to resuming the game.

Okay, so we're back to being on the same page. The game is not being resumed this week. It was too tall a order to get entire organizational buy-in for a quick turnaround to play the football game.

Yes, if you want, you can say, "Well, the letter of law says that's a forfeit" (even though I'm not sure that's necessarily true). Or you can say, "Okay, I understand these are strange circumstances. Here's the contingency plan."

You favor the former; I favor the latter. I can see why you have your position, and I think you can see why I have mine.

I just think all of this stuff that's floating around about "the Bills response" etc etc is an echo chamber that so many of yourselves have gotten caught in. And it feels like such an overcorrection to be so upset about it.

We can be friends again, right?

staylor26 · 01-04-2023, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

You have to have some sort of defined timeframe for this though, right?

It can’t just be an indefinite period of time until the Bills are ready. Is it 1 additional week? 2?

Yes, and that was Tues-Thur.

That time has clearly passed.

TwistedChief · 01-04-2023, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

You have to have some sort of defined timeframe for this though, right?

It can’t just be an indefinite period of time until the Bills are ready. Is it 1 additional week? 2?

I said earlier in the thread that if the game had been scheduled for, say, Saturday or Sunday of this weekend, that would be enough time.

DJ's left nut · 01-04-2023, 10:13 AM

Oh, and this is something that nobody is EVER going to say.

But many of us have listened to the Kelce podcast and many have also/or listened to some other podcast from current/ex jocks.

Fellas - many of these dudes barely know each other. There are 100+ players/coaches out there. 100 people isn't a large business, but if you work at one of those places, I guarantee you that many of the people in that company don't know the faces/names of every other employee.

And we've talked several times around here about how segmented locker rooms are and thus why leadership at multiple levels is so important. Mahomes is the leader of the offense, but the defense? Guys, he doesn't spend much time with the defense. He's not in the DL room. He's not running drills with those guys.

Damar Hamlin is a late round backup safety who's gotten reps this year due to injuries in the Bills secondary. Do I think a bunch of dudes in the OL room were tight with him? I do not. They spend less time with Hamlin than they do the trainer.

You know why football players/coaches usually call other players by their numbers instead of their names? That'd be why.

These guys are co-workers. Oftentimes co-workers that work completely independently of each other, especially during the season. Sure, he has friends on the team and I'm sure the secondary room is pretty shaken up. But at a point continuing to act like this guy was best buds with everyone on that team and his condition has left them all rudderless and adrift is just silly.

And man, I'm listening to some show yesterday and the idiot reporter tried to make it sound like Higgins and Hamlin had some close bond because "Higgins played at Clemons and Hamlin played at Pitt..."

FFS - this has moved into farce at this point.

Discuss Thrower · 01-04-2023, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SupDock

Mad that people are on to discussing football along with the injury, and is virtue signaling that people have moved on. Also doesn’t want to come back until we are talking Football. Also Football has nothing to do with his life, yet here he is.

Real |zach| energy in DirtMcGirt's postings here

**DaFace** · 01-04-2023, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I just think all of this stuff that's floating around about "the Bills response" etc etc is an echo chamber that so many of yourselves have gotten caught in. And it feels like such an overcorrection to be so upset about it.

It's pretty much a staple of modern discourse to make unfounded assumptions about the positions of people you disagree with.

As far as I know, the Bills themselves haven't said anything at all about what they want to happen. People are basically just arguing against things they read on the internet or hear on the radio. Which is, of course, a super valuable use of one's time.

**DaFace** · 01-04-2023, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I just think all of this stuff that's floating around about "the Bills response" etc etc is an echo chamber that so many of yourselves have gotten caught in. And it feels like such an overcorrection to be so upset about it.

It's pretty much a staple of modern discourse to make unfounded assumptions about the positions of people you disagree with.

As far as I know, the Bills themselves haven't said anything at all about what they want to happen. People are basically just arguing against things they read on the internet or hear on the radio. Which is, of course, a super valuable use of one's time.

smithandrew051 · 01-04-2023, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yes, and that was Tues-Thur.

That time has clearly passed.

I agree with that timeframe, but I can see why someone would argue to push the playoffs and have the game resumed after Week 18.

Whatever timeframe is appropriate it needs to be defined immediately and made known to the Bills. For all we know, that has already happened.

This can’t just be an indefinite period that stagnates the entire season.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 01-04-2023, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt

Lol I gotta stop.

I get it though. I've seen Bills fans do plenty of really dumb gross things, I get into disagreements all the time because I find a sizeable portion of our fanbase to be racist hicks.

Anyways take care man, you seem like a real one.

I said my piece, I'm not gonna lambast people more.

But maybe I'll come back when actual football is discussed.

I do enjoy the rivalry between the teams on the field, after you guys owning us for the first few meetings they've been some great shoot outs ever since.

I'm not like other Bills fans. 13 seconds rolled off my back like water in the shower. I'm 30, all I know is losing, so just even getting games and moments like that out of the Bills I'm grateful for.

And like I said, i don't get confused like any of this has to do with my life or identity.

Keep telling yourself that, but we all know better, we had our fair share of last minute losses and kickers failing and it didn't roll off like water. Thank God, because win you do win a Superbowl, and you probably will if Josh stays healthy, it makes it that much sweeter.

Also, you need to check yourself, folks on here were overwhelmingly in support of Damar and the Bills, it started to turn when the game wasn't going to be played by Wednesday and twitter and others said we should do the right thing and let the Bills have the #1 seed. Most of us feel you were on your way to an L on Monday and a no contest would be more than fair for the Bills. We are becoming the villian of the NFL with our success, and this will just add to that lore.

DJ's left nut · 01-04-2023, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Go to our GameDay thread and start on page 30 where Damar was injured and see the reaction.

Go look at our thread pulling for Damar's recovery with no mentions of football implications.

Or - and hear me out here.

He could go fist his mother.

staylor26 · 01-04-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Okay, so we're back to being on the same page. The game is not being resumed this week. It was too tall a order to get entire organizational buy-in for a quick turnaround to play the football game.

Yes, if you want, you can say, "Well, the letter of law says that's a forfeit" (even though I'm not sure that's necessarily true). Or you can say, "Okay, I understand these are strange circumstances. Here's the contingency plan."

You favor the former; I favor the latter. I can see why you have your position, and I think you can see why I have mine.

I just think all of this stuff that's floating around about "the Bills response" etc etc is an echo chamber that so many of yourselves have gotten caught in. And it feels like such an overcorrection to be so upset about it.

We can be friends again, right?

The Bills didn't want to play the game this week. Sounds like they might not even want to play Sunday.

The message is clearly "this is bigger than football".

That's fine, but the show must go on.

If football doesn't matter right now, then there's nothing wrong with the Bills accepting a forfeit (or 2) and getting some time to get their shit together to be ready for the playoffs which they are still in.

Anything else is unnecessarily bending over backwards for a team that has clearly said that football isn't import right now.

And we are always friends!

01-03-2023, 08:15 AM
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $2166277	Bills/ Bengals [cancelled - process in OP] In case anyone needs it spelled out, we would play at a neutral site if the AFCCG ends up being Chiefs vs. Bills. All other scenarios abide by the usual rules (so any other game the Chiefs play will be at home). Old posts: Spoiler! The NFL will consider a neutral site for the AFC Championship Game. Full details: pic.twitter.com/oi3fItUWIj — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 6, 2023 Breaking News: Of course the game is secondary to #DamarHamlin’s health, but #Bills insider @viccarucci just reported on @wgrz Daybreak that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will make the call on rescheduling the Bills/Bengals game and it would have to be played within 2 days. — Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023 There is another option according to @viccarucci - the league can add a 19th week so the Bills/Bengals can get in all their games. @wgrz https://t.co/1X1hCHVN8c — Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023 I assume we'll hear something soon After speaking with both teams and NFLPA leadership, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell informed the clubs today that the Bills-Bengals game will not be resumed this week. The NFL has made no decision regarding the possible resumption of the game at a later date. — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 3, 2023 Last edited by DaFace; 01-09-2023 at 02:14 PM..
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Balto Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $2662198	I’m also wondering how much pressure Roger is giving to Bills and Bengals ownership behind closed doors. Would make everything sooooo much easier if Bills just agreed to a forfeit because it would be the “best for the NFL”. Wonder if other owners get involved and give Bills/Bengals a call
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Doctors saw promising signs of progress overnight from Damar Hamlin, who remained hospitalized in critical condition as of Wednesday morning, according to a friend and business partner of the Buffalo Bills safety.https://t.co/yd90xXvHL1 — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 4, 2023
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