Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 89

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2016, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Above and beyond the 20-4 stretch, I'm not sure people have perspective on what a luxury it is to have a team that, even when it loses, beats itself.

Yep. People are forgetting how bad 2014 was when our O-line was junk and our QB was running for his life to later have his spleen lacerate. We were stuck with a WR who wouldn't catch a TD all year and would sign with the Browns the following season to have less catches than Marcus Peters did interceptions.

3 of our 4 losses this 2016 season was decided by an average of 3.6 points. All losses have been to a playoff contending team. 2010 Packers lost 6 games by an average of 3.6 points before going on to win it all.

This forum needs to relax. Enjoy the games or I would suggest to quit watching. The debbie downers going on rants are making themselves and this place look pathetic.

**notorious** · 12-19-2016, 08:37 AM

An Aaron Rodgers Green Bay team compared to the Chiefs. You don't see that every day.

Red Dawg · 12-19-2016, 08:38 AM

Alex is rarely not a problem. No team worries about him lighting them up. They concentrate on killing our ground game and that shut down our offense. Smith is just not good enough and teams know it.

Dayze · 12-19-2016, 08:39 AM

opposing defenses game plan for our passing attack like they're facing a first year QB, or a backup QB.

BigCatDaddy · 12-19-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Alex is rarely not a problem. No team worries about him lighting them up. They concentrate on killing our ground game and that shut down our offense. Smith is just not good enough and teams know it.

We are a mid tier QB and OC away from being legit. Dorsey has done a great job thus far.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2016, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

An Aaron Rodgers Green Bay team compared to the Chiefs. You don't see that every day.

What so are you going to deny that Eli Manning and the 10-6 and 9-7 Giants didn't win rings either?

Your football takes are garbage.

**notorious** · 12-19-2016, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

What so are you going to deny that Eli Manning and the 10-6 and 9-7 Giants didn't win rings either?

Your football takes are garbage.

When did you mention he Giants? My goodness you are all over the place.

**notorious** · 12-19-2016, 08:45 AM

You just compared an Aaron Rodgers team and season in which he was awesome, to Alex Smith and the Chiefs.....

And you think my takes are dumb. Holy shit.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2016, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

You just compared an Aaron Rodgers team, a season in which he was awesome, to Alex Smith and the Chiefs.....

And you think my games are dumb. Holy shit.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...ense/year/2010

Green Bay was ranked second in defense. Rodgers wasn't even top 5 in total yards. His best seasons came after he won the SB

Again, defense wins championships.

Further evidence you know nothing about the NFL or what you are watching on the tube.

**notorious** · 12-19-2016, 08:49 AM

**Baby Lee** · 12-19-2016, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...ense/year/2010

Green Bay was ranked second in defense. Rodgers wasn't even top 5 in total yards. His best seasons came after he won the SB

Again, defense wins championships.

Further evidence you know nothing about the NFL or what you are watching on the tube.

It consistently blows my mind how difficult a concept 4 words can be

It's a team game.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2016, 08:49 AM

You carelessly throw out the "Aaron Rodgers" comment and fail to explain why he had 6 losses within a margin of 3 points. By your logic they should have been undefeated, especially with the #2 ranked defense in the league that season.

Moron. Moron. Moron.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Wow.

The moment your flawed statement kicks you right in the face.

You want to discuss how the Chiefs offense isn't holding up their end of the bargain and we sit at 4 losses meanwhile an Aaron Rodgers led team with the #2 defense that season gave up 6 games and lost home field advantage. Your logic is absolute ****.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-19-2016, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Reekfreek

Bono was responsible for 26 TDs in 1995. (21 passing, 5 rushing)

Alex has 15 this year (12 passing, 3 rushing)

Might want to reverse your statement.

How do you think the Nazis are going to react when they realize the gun isn't loaded?

Buh gawd kang another Clay mult

**notorious** · 12-19-2016, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

It consistently blows my mind how difficult a concept 4 words can be

It's a team game.

Come on Baby. Don't group me with that crowd.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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12-19-2016, 08:49 AM	#1332
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	You carelessly throw out the "Aaron Rodgers" comment and fail to explain why he had 6 losses within a margin of 3 points. By your logic they should have been undefeated, especially with the #2 ranked defense in the league that season. Moron. Moron. Moron.
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