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Old 11-21-2016, 09:33 AM  
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Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row.

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7




https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...

Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

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Old 12-19-2016, 01:58 AM   #1306
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Hey Tigger; wouldn't it be nice if one could take all of that consecutive winning percentage that you and a few others are so proud of, and be able to apply even a modest fraction of it to Alex Smith?

Wowwwwww......

In the mean time, I believe that a more honest and repentant thread title be observed here.


I suggest; "I'm apologize haters, Alex Smith was and has been the problem on Sunday for some time now".
Yep, that'll help it along a little bit I think.


For everyone else:

I suggest kind of turning off the logic portion of your brain when reading Uncle Bob here, and just imagine everything he types, he believes with all his little choad-chompin' heart; it really does bring a whole new dimension of much-needed comedy to this sad situation he has created for himself.

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Old 12-19-2016, 04:14 AM   #1307
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Seriously WTF is with Clark's hair? It can't be attached to his head Shirley?

Edit: it looks like one of those bike helmets painted to look like hair
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:59 AM   #1308
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The Chiefs have won the last few weeks in spite of their quarterback, you can't deny that.

This team really is the reincarnation of Marty's 1995 team. We'll probably have just about as much success in the playoffs as that '95 team if the offense can't find a way to dislodge its head from its ass.
If you're reaching randomly for a generic Marty-era underachiever, I understand. But of all teams, this is least like 1995.

Alex is much better than Bono.
Receiving weapons are much better
O-Line much worse
Defense much much worse [specifically with the loss of DJ, the slump of Dee, and Houston's slow return to form]

The team in 2016 has problems across the roster that stand in the way of guaranteeing success, but it's far from one or two, including QB, lynchpin problems.

Most of the time, the balance of the roster covers the decficits that arise. Occasionally they don't. Yesterday was a perfect storm of the skill of the opponent, our fear of the skill of the opponent, the yips in a lot of fine adjustments, and a few bad calls [refs, players, and coaches alike].

Above and beyond the 20-4 stretch, I'm not sure people have perspective on what a luxury it is to have a team that, even when it loses, beats itself.

As maddening as it is to see a mistake here and there draw everyone's testicles up, that's an eminently more fixable problem than having personnel that can take the field 10 times against x or y opponent and get reliably and demoralizingly blown off the ball.

Closest we came this year was the Steelers game, and even then it was a 22 point tsunami in 5 minutes on the road more than being outclassed whistle to whistle.

Yesterday, no QB would have made a difference. Andy feared the Titans D and their running O. Their running game gave him every reason to at every moment of the day yesterday. Their D gave us a cushion early on, but then gave him every reason to fear the rest of the game. Getting stoned umpteen times in a row on 3rd or 4th and inches will do that to any coach.

And Alex did have the INT.

But so far as 'putting the team on his shoulders,' the only time that was called for was with a 1 pt lead with 2:30 left in the game. Andy called 3 straight runs. You think he would have preferred a gunslinger 'go for the jugular' in that situation, even Brady or Rodgers? Do you think another QB would have run those 3 running plays smarter or better?

It's fine to have high expectations. It's fine to get mad over mistakes. What's not fine is to reflexively demand that something, ANYTHING ELSE would certainly be better.

The team is thoughtfully constructed and molded to compete and win. You might think your perspective gives you superior insight into the 'big picture,' but the organization's tact of forgetting yesterday, remembering it's one game fungible with all other regular season games, acknowledging that fixation on the past will never alter any of it, and preparing to maximize the performance of the roster assembled, is the proper and superior way to go.

Standing on Omaha beach is not the time to start griping that you wish Uncle Sam had given you a different gun.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:06 AM   #1309
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Offense should be ashamed of themselves after this game. The defense gave them countless opportunities to put the game away and they blew it every single time.

They really need to step it up these last two weeks and in the playoffs otherwise we will be one-and-done.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:13 AM   #1310
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Alex is much better than Bono.
Bono was responsible for 26 TDs in 1995. (21 passing, 5 rushing)

Alex has 15 this year (12 passing, 3 rushing)

Might want to reverse your statement.

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Standing on Omaha beach is not the time to start griping that you wish Uncle Sam had given you a different gun.
How do you think the Nazis are going to react when they realize the gun isn't loaded?
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:16 AM   #1311
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Be happy about this loss all you ****ing want. I'm not going to be happy about it, I'm gonna say why I'm unhappy about it, and I guaran****ingtee no one on that mother ****ing team is happy about it, tigerbob.


Have fun being a ****ing pussy by your self.
Is there absolutely no real estate between 'happy with the loss' and 'ready to chuck everything and start over?'
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:17 AM   #1312
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What? We've added Andy to the list. If not Dorsey and Hunt too, by extension...
When is Clark's press conference?
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:25 AM   #1313
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3. The opposing defense will suddenly become a formidable force that only the likes of Brady, Montana or prime Peyton Manning would have a chance against. Case in point the 2011 Giants defense which was a middle of the pack defense by DVOA metrics and a bottom four unit in terms of passing offense allowed.
And it didn't give Brady in his prime a chance.

This is ridiculous sophistry. Pretending the Giants playoff D was middle of the road and Smith was the only one who underperformed against them, when they beat everyone they faced on the backs of their D and Smith was the highest performing QB among those they faced.

That isn't defending Smith, that's just reality.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:27 AM   #1314
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I'm honestly really surprised with how inefficient this offense is, in terms of scoring points. I thought they would be closer to a top 7-10 scoring offense. Even without Charles.

Sometimes they look really aggressive, then others they look like they're simply trying to protect the ball and punt. It's very strange.

I just don't think Reid is particularly good at basic football scheming. Everything he does involves a lot of trickery and decoys and misdirection. Sometimes it works well. But when every play is the swinging gate, it ceases to become effective.
If I had to pick one thing, with the personnel losses we've had and the timelines of recovery they've incurred, I think Andy is severely game planning for health and survival over maximum performance.

I can't shake the mental image of Andy seeing a TE crossing play on the playsheet, then recalling DJ or JC grabbing a knee or ankle and tossing it in the flat.

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Old 12-19-2016, 07:29 AM   #1315
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Bono was responsible for 26 TDs in 1995. (21 passing, 5 rushing)

Alex has 15 this year (12 passing, 3 rushing)

Might want to reverse your statement.



How do you think the Nazis are going to react when they realize the gun isn't loaded?
Did I ask you to speak, Cankles?
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:41 AM   #1316
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You could spend more useless time and effort attempting to legitimize the ReidSmith based on regular season wins, or you can do the obvious and correct thing:

Recant, repent, and pray for a better option
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:44 AM   #1317
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You could spend more useless time and effort attempting to legitimize the ReidSmith based on regular season wins, or you can do the obvious and correct thing:

Recant, repent, and pray for a better option
Awfully religious verbiage for someone 'over it all.'

You, Cankles. Sensing a trend. Is all this based in some childhood JW trauma?
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:49 AM   #1318
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Awfully religious verbiage for someone 'over it all.'

You, Cankles. Sensing a trend. Is all this based in some childhood JW trauma?
Nope. Just continuous, fun and entertaining water cooler verbage, yo'.
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:12 AM   #1319
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When is Clark's press conference?
Any time now I'm sure. The folks from the local press have gathered...

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blahblahblah..the defense let the Titans march right down into FG range, and then Reid gave him another kick.

anything before that is irrelevant.
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