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09-02-2009, 08:12 PM | #121 |
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Well most superbowl champs have 1st round QB's too...so there's always that.
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09-02-2009, 08:13 PM | #122 |
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LOL So, there is some sort of "ceiling" on what the Chiefs can or cannot spend on an "ORT?" If Orlando Pace from Ohio State was there at #3, you would pass on him because he'd be an "ORT." If you have Tony Boselli, you cannot spend top dollar on FA ORT Leon Searcy, right? If you have Mark May and Joe Jacoby, you sure as heck would not trade Jay Schroeder to Oakland for Jim Lachey... because that would make Joe Jacoby an ORT and May an ORG... nevermind the ring they got that year from demolishing the Bills in the Super Bowl... |
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lol that is true, I was on the Stafford/Sanchez bandwagon, but I am willing to give Cassel a shot, not that it matters...... so your telling me you would take a John Tait or a Robert Gallery over say a Richard Seymour on your defense
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09-02-2009, 08:17 PM | #125 |
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You have to realize how much money you can account to each position in the cap era, if you have 2 first round OT's odds are you are overpaying for the position and you will lose one because as soon as that RT's contract is up..especially if he was taken top 5 he'll leave cause another team will offer him more than you can pay.
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09-02-2009, 08:18 PM | #127 |
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If Steve Hutchinson is available, you take him.
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09-02-2009, 08:19 PM | #128 |
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You're picking guys who didn't pan out though so it's not a true example...if you are going to use Seymour as the example you should give like Walter Jones as the other example.
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So you'd rather have Ryan Leaf, that's what you're saying?
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Specifically two FIRSTS recently - very few. I would include very expensive FAs too. That list of Super Bowl participants includes Steelers - Wayne Gandy and Marvel Smith were both Firsts Rams - Pace was a First, Miller then left for huge bucks in FA Eagles - Thomas First, Runyan expensive FA Bucs - Roman Oben 3rd round OLT, Kenyatta Walker FIRST ROUND ORT Panthers - Jordan Gross FIRST ROUND ORT at the time Todd Steussie FIRST ROUND OLT FA Titans - Brad Hopkins First Round Jon Runyan 4th round STUD Raiders - Kennedy FIRST Stinchcomb FIRST |
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yeah but when your drafting you don't know if the player is going to be any good, you don't just take a tackle to take a tackle, the Raiders thought Gallery was a sure thing, look how that panned out, people were down on the Seymour pick and he turned out to be a stud and cornerstone of that defense
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What if you use Wendell Bryant as the defensive example then it changes. |
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Don't get me started. I panned Gallery - Vernon Carey was my top OT prospect that year... ORT specifically. First of all, your comp is a loaded sack of ####. Tait was a good player. Gallery was a BUST. I could cite Kenneth Sims, for example. Seymour was a much better prospect than T-Jax. Monroe is a much better prospect than Tait. If you want to equal it out, and say Seymour vs. Orlando Pace, sure, that's a question I'll answer. If you have one but not two OTs of high caliber, you pick PACE. If you have two, you pick Seymour. |
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First of all, Pace and Gross were drafted to play right tackle only until they made the eventual transition to Left Tackle. That's clearly not the case with the Chiefs. Second of all, we're talking top 5, even top 10 picks. Finally, throwing a 4th round RT is completely contrary to the argument. |
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