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Old 12-29-2008, 02:58 PM  
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810 vs 610 on Thigy
So this afternoon I am driving around and I hear KK going off abou tThigy not being the man and such. Ok, commercial comes so I flip to 610. On 610 they are arguing that Thigy deserves a shot and pointing out the stats pre and post Thigy and such.

You almost wonder if they plan this shit? Anyhow, if KK is so staunch in his opposition of Thigy then I say we definitely need to give Thigy a shot.

So this seems it will be the ongoing argument over the next several weeks. Some people are going to be very pissed off come draft time when we make our first selection.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:46 PM   #121
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If you feel you are for a fact top 5 pick you should leave, you risk losing draft position or getting injured if you don't...you drop 5 spots you just cost yourself atleast 20 million dollars.
who is a sure fire top 5 pick? stafford? maybe, the experts seem divided. if he comes out will the lions take him? probably. then what?
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:47 PM   #122
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If Stafford and Bradford both came out I have no question that they'd both be gone by the 15th pick.

Bradford in my view is the guy with the most to lose his stock will never be higher than it is right now.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:48 PM   #123
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If Stafford and Bradford both came out I have no question that they'd both be gone by the 15th pick.

Bradford in my view is the guy with the most to lose his stock will never be higher than it is right now.
but you said a top 5 not top 15, so who comes out?
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:48 PM   #124
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How good of a defense are we talking....

The QB is a problem because it is the most important position on the field and by the way, where is this DE you are seeing that is gonna change the game? There is no Peppers or Mario Williams in this years draft.

You don't wanna pull a Rams and take Chris Long who looks to be a Justin Smith kind of player.
Dude you can go check the stats. We couldn't even get a first down until Thigpen came in. We went from scoring 12 pts a game to 22pts a game. We did not lose the majority of Thigpen's start because of QB play. To say that is just being intellecually dishonest.


You act like a QB is the fix to all our problems when the stats for this team arguably say that is wrong. If fixing the defense is so easy why have we not fixed it since Marty left? 1st round picks are nothing more than projections based on college level play. Sure the odds favor a first round pick. But there are not any hard and fast rules that say you MUST have a 1st round QB. Especially when the rest of your team sucks ass worse than the 7th round QB who arguably made a miserable season easier to watch.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:49 PM   #125
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If Stafford and Bradford both came out I have no question that they'd both be gone by the 15th pick.

Bradford in my view is the guy with the most to lose his stock will never be higher than it is right now.
Bradford is overrated. I am sorry but he is not impressing me for the hype he is getting. He plays behind the biggest O-line in the Big 12 and maybe even all of college. It is hard to look bad in college when you have something like that.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:50 PM   #126
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It's not going to fix all the problems but I want to build the team around the most important position on the field not around a QB that is just "alright" or better than the most horrendous shit I'd ever seen.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:51 PM   #127
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Bradford is overrated. I am sorry but he is not impressing me for the hype he is getting. He plays behind the biggest O-line in the Big 12 and maybe even all of college. It is hard to look bad in college when you have something like that.
That's why his stock is as high as it will ever be right now.....he will lose his entire line, a WR and possibly his TE....and he will be fully upfront on everyones radar to get overanalyzed by everyone.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:51 PM   #128
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I am going to laugh my ass off if we draft Stafford and we go 2-14 BECAUSE of the QB.
Laugh all you want, at least they would take the chance.

News Flash: THIGY IS NOT A QUALITY STARTER.
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That's why his stock is as high as it will ever be right now.....he will lose his entire line, a WR and possibly his TE....and he will be fully upfront on everyones radar to get overanalyzed by everyone.
so if stafford AND bradford declare would you be ok with bradford?(stafford to lions)
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:52 PM   #130
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Dude you can go check the stats. We couldn't even get a first down until Thigpen came in. We went from scoring 12 pts a game to 22pts a game. We did not lose the majority of Thigpen's start because of QB play. To say that is just being intellecually dishonest.


You act like a QB is the fix to all our problems when the stats for this team arguably say that is wrong. If fixing the defense is so easy why have we not fixed it since Marty left? 1st round picks are nothing more than projections based on college level play. Sure the odds favor a first round pick. But there are not any hard and fast rules that say you MUST have a 1st round QB. Especially when the rest of your team sucks ass worse than the 7th round QB who arguably made a miserable season easier to watch.


I just knew you had to be one of those idiot callers.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:53 PM   #132
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It's not going to fix all the problems but I want to build the team around the most important position on the field not around a QB that is just "alright" or better than the most horrendous shit I'd ever seen.
ok, but if the QB can't take 3 steps back before the defense is up his ass or can't trust his own defense to hold a lead, I do not care what round or how good he is, we will lose. And if those things were so easy to fix we would of fixed them by now.

It will be a tough decision and I do not envy the people that have to make it.
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Are we still talking about the Chiefs? The 32nd ranked defense Chiefs? The Chiefs who had all of 10 sacks all year? The Chiefs who gave up 300+ yard like it was going out of style?
There were games where the defense played well and we still lost.

That's on the quarterback.
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Laugh all you want, at least they would take the chance.

News Flash: THIGY IS NOT A QUALITY STARTER.
YET, but who knows? A LOT of 1st year starters have had WORSE years than thiggy and gone on to be really good even great
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so if stafford AND bradford declare would you be ok with bradford?(stafford to lions)
I honestly need to see how he works out, I question his arm if he proves he has a stronger arm than I think he does then it'll be ok.
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