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Old 06-24-2009, 10:13 AM  
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:18 PM   #121
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I always made fun of my friends who are Bears fans because Mike Brown could NEVER stay healthy. He is (injury wise) the Brodie Croyle of safeties. The problem with him is that the Bears counted on him to be in their lineup every year with not much of a plan in place if he wasn't. If Brown does end up starting in KC, at least we have some young talent with starting experience behind him.

I like the move. I think he will bring some veteran and Super Bowl experience to KC. And he isn't ancient for a safety (31). If they count on him to hold up throughout an entire season...it won't happen. We would be lucky to see him make it through training camp/preseason without an injury.

The difference between Croyle and Brown is Brown actually makes plays. Yes he gets injured its becuz he goes all out and makes play. This is a damn good signing as everyone said we didn't really spend much on a guy who when he plays is awesome.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:22 PM   #122
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Yes. Special Teams.
You mean where he runs behind the return guy for about 25 yards and then takes a dive about a foot behind his feet?

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Old 06-24-2009, 04:26 PM   #123
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Chiefs agree to deal with ex-Pro Bowl S Brown

Chiefs agreed to terms with S Mike Brown, formerly of the Bears.

The KC Star's report says Brown "could" swipe Jarrad Page or Bernard Pollard's starting job, but he's more likely to be a third safety. It's the role he's best suited for at age 31 with a long history of unreliable health. A onetime Pro Bowler (2005) and Chicago's all-time leader in defensive TDs (7), Brown can play both safety spots. There's a lot to like about this pickup. Jun. 24 - 12:18 pm et
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1) The Star is high as a kite.

2) Yes...another Safety. That's exactly what we needed.







































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Old 06-24-2009, 04:26 PM   #124
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The difference between Croyle and Brown is Brown actually makes plays. Yes he gets injured its becuz he goes all out and makes play. This is a damn good signing as everyone said we didn't really spend much on a guy who when he plays is awesome.
That's why I put (injury wise) in my initial post.

I will have to disagree with you on the point about Mike Brown getting hurt because he goes all out. We are talking about the NFL here. Every player goes all out. You wouldn't make it through one game if you didn't. Mike Brown is INJURY PRONE. Nothing is going to change that.

It is still a good signing though.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:30 PM   #125
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That's why I put (injury wise) in my initial post.

I will have to disagree with you on the point about Mike Brown getting hurt because he goes all out. We are talking about the NFL here. Every player goes all out. You wouldn't make it through one game if you didn't. Mike Brown is INJURY PRONE. Nothing is going to change that.

It is still a good signing though.
Yea but didn't croyle miss a game because his back was sore? I mean theres a difference between a sore back and a torn ACL. Look at the Brown highlight tape he's a beast. Anyway understand why I love this signing i'm a Cornhusker fan and Brown was one of the best Husker players. Also I said before it'd be awesome if we'd sign Mike Brown. I also said we should trade for Cassel you can look it up. I will put my rep on this both will be very good players for the Chiefs.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:37 PM   #126
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Yea but didn't croyle miss a game because his back was sore? I mean theres a difference between a sore back and a torn ACL. Look at the Brown highlight tape he's a beast. Anyway understand why I love this signing i'm a Cornhusker fan and Brown was one of the best Husker players. Also I said before it'd be awesome if we'd sign Mike Brown. I also said we should trade for Cassel you can look it up. I will put my rep on this both will be very good players for the Chiefs.
Brown has missed 44 games over the last 5 seasons. That's 4 games less than 3 FULL seasons. Brown just can't stay healthy, it doesn't matter how big or small the injury is.

Good signing...but nothing to get too excited about. He won't hold up an entire season.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:40 PM   #127
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hey I like it! As long as it's not for too much. But we could definately use some quality experience back there.
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:33 PM   #128
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It's about setting examples. How to prepare, how to win. etc. These are grown men. Nobody expects them to be big brothering them. Especially when they are ultimately going to replace them.
Exactly.

Though I think sometimes players do take a liking to veterans and vice versa.
Ultimately... I'll take veterans who can lead by example. That can often be more influential than the "under the wing" approach.
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:36 PM   #129
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It's about setting examples. How to prepare, how to win. etc. These are grown men. Nobody expects them to be big brothering them. Especially when they are ultimately going to replace them.
Yeah, that Mike Vrabel's really set the tone for the youthful players.

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Old 06-24-2009, 06:33 PM   #130
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Yeah, that Mike Vrabel's really set the tone for the youthful players.

How do you know that? Because he didn't show up to optional workouts and because he said he was unhappy to be traded?

But did you hear from players that said he was inapproachable? Have there been any reports that he hasn't been working hard since going to camp? Have you heard any single player say that they are upset at him for not showing up?

You're speculating. Hines Ward held out several years ago from training camp. So did Tony Gonzalez. And these are two of the hardest working players in the game (and in the case of Tony G, we've seen specific cases of his mentourship). Players understand the difference between business and playing. I have yet to see any specific evidence to suggest that his skipping OTAs had any negative effect on the youth. In fact, it's probably a ridiculous suggestion to say so. We haven't seen any evidence of a positive influence either, but I guarantee that you will very soon.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:43 PM   #131
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Yeah, that Mike Vrabel's really set the tone for the youthful players.

Drafted players don't yet understand the politics or business of the NFL.
I'm sure no rookie working his way onto this roster will bat an eyelash at Vrabel exercising his right not to show up for voluntary OTA's.
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Yeah, that Mike Vrabel's really set the tone for the youthful players.

Dude, it's June. Give it a rest. Are you really gonna hang your argument on statements from Sapp recounting his days with the Raiders? The Raiders. Losers. You can't say no veteran will mentor a rookie. Winning teams do, losing teams don't.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:20 PM   #133
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Dude, it's June. Give it a rest. Are you really gonna hang your argument on statements from Sapp recounting his days with the Raiders? The Raiders. Losers. You can't say no veteran will mentor a rookie. Winning teams do, losing teams don't.
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If he stays on the field he's better than both Page and Pollard......Page has become one of the most overrated Chiefs players, I'm not sure why.
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If he stays on the field he's better than both Page and Pollard......Page has become one of the most overrated Chiefs players, I'm not sure why.
Because he makes plays. Few others do.

But I agree. He probably is overrated by homers like myself.
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