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Old 01-19-2025, 10:40 AM   #1
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Even though on the second RTP hit they didn't hit Pat, it was OBVIOUS They were launching at him helmet first.

Which is why they hit each other in the helmet. Pat went under it.

So yeah, maybe if they stopped trying to take cheap shots they wouldn't get these flags.
NFL Network had their rules analyst on this morning and he said both penalties were correctly called based on the letter of the law.

He also said that officials are instructed to err on the side of caution and as such, even had those been subject to replay review, they'd have stood as called.

He told Mariucci that if they want to change the rules that's a different discussion but as the rules are written and with the emphasis on protecting QBs, those were BOTH correct calls and when shown from the officials angle and in slow motion, both are easily supported.
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Old 01-19-2025, 10:50 AM   #2
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NFL Network had their rules analyst on this morning and he said both penalties were correctly called based on the letter of the law.

He also said that officials are instructed to err on the side of caution and as such, even had those been subject to replay review, they'd have stood as called.

He told Mariucci that if they want to change the rules that's a different discussion but as the rules are written and with the emphasis on protecting QBs, those were BOTH correct calls and when shown from the officials angle and in slow motion, both are easily supported.
The best part is that Aikman’s last season was full of concussions that likely shortened his career.

He, of all people, should understand how bad shortened QB careers are for the League.
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Old 01-19-2025, 11:28 AM   #3
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NFL Network had their rules analyst on this morning and he said both penalties were correctly called based on the letter of the law.

He also said that officials are instructed to err on the side of caution and as such, even had those been subject to replay review, they'd have stood as called.

He told Mariucci that if they want to change the rules that's a different discussion but as the rules are written and with the emphasis on protecting QBs, those were BOTH correct calls and when shown from the officials angle and in slow motion, both are easily supported.

It was obvious in real time too. But the announcers couldn’t bring themselves to acknowledge it.
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Old 01-19-2025, 12:17 PM   #4
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It was obvious in real time too. But the announcers couldn’t bring themselves to acknowledge it.
I haven't heard anyone mention the sound of that collision on the 2nd hit.

The {thwack} of the helmets hitting each other was loud enough to be heard above the crowd. If you're an official on the field and you see two players dive headfirst at a QB going to the ground and you hear that sound, you're going to throw the flag.

And as was mentioned by someone above - don't want the flag thrown? Don't launch headlong at the QB. They clearly intended to take his head off and Mahomes ducked it. My regret isn't the penalty - it's that those two didn't take each other out of the contest.
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Old 01-19-2025, 07:54 PM   #5
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NFL Network had their rules analyst on this morning and he said both penalties were correctly called based on the letter of the law.

He also said that officials are instructed to err on the side of caution and as such, even had those been subject to replay review, they'd have stood as called.

He told Mariucci that if they want to change the rules that's a different discussion but as the rules are written and with the emphasis on protecting QBs, those were BOTH correct calls and when shown from the officials angle and in slow motion, both are easily supported.
That is the real issue.

The rule book is unnecessarily convoluted and officials are explicitly instructed to throw the flag if they think the penalty occurred.

The league needs to streamline the process and do what the UFL does. Use a sky judge to overturn bogus penalties.

But guess what? The NFL has no incentive to change. The controversy sells and everyone keeps watching.
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Old 01-20-2025, 08:18 AM   #6
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That is the real issue.

The rule book is unnecessarily convoluted and officials are explicitly instructed to throw the flag if they think the penalty occurred.

The league needs to streamline the process and do what the UFL does. Use a sky judge to overturn bogus penalties.

But guess what? The NFL has no incentive to change. The controversy sells and everyone keeps watching.
The problem is the weak QB rules these days. They see the concussions to Tua and Lawrence - and others that were able to come back into the game and it just cements those rules. The fact is when a defender makes contact to a QBs head they're throwing the flag. Which happened on both of the plays in the Chiefs/Texans game. I don't particularly like it but we've been on the other side of it before and will again.
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Old 01-20-2025, 08:26 AM   #7
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That is the real issue.

The rule book is unnecessarily convoluted and officials are explicitly instructed to throw the flag if they think the penalty occurred.

The league needs to streamline the process and do what the UFL does. Use a sky judge to overturn bogus penalties.

But guess what? The NFL has no incentive to change. The controversy sells and everyone keeps watching.
You’re being dramatic, but that’s no surprise. Personal foul flags can be picked up on review (or expedited review aka ‘sky judge’). They weren’t picked up in the KC divisional because they were legit penalties.

The only controversy selling right now is the one that’s got you on the hook. MaHomES gEtS AlL the cALls!
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Has anyone considered that maybe the Texans shouldn’t go head hunting on QBs who are sliding because of the possibility of a penalty?

Maybe just don’t do that anymore?
I was just making this point in another thread. Piggy-backing in what you're saying here I'd also ask why lower your head as you hit Mahomes when you believe that Mahomes is protected and gets all the calls?
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I was just making this point in another thread. Piggy-backing in what you're saying here I'd also ask why lower your head as you hit Mahomes when you believe that Mahomes is protected and gets all the calls?
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Old 01-19-2025, 09:19 AM   #10
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"We knew it was going to be us vs the refs" /Targets Mahomes head multiple times during the game
“They pull everyone over in that School Zone”

*drives 90 anyway and gets pulled over*

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You guys listen to the announcers?

Mute their stupid asses.
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Old 01-19-2025, 10:38 AM   #12
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You guys listen to the announcers?

Mute their stupid asses.
The best argument against the 'the game is better at home' crowd.

You know how much stupid shit I had to hear from Aikman? Not a bit of it.

Gimme Arrowhead over Buck every time...
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