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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:37 PM   #1381
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Big Bold Letters for you. NIANG IS COMING OFF AN OPERATION TO HIS HIP AND WE DON'T KNOW IF HE'S CAPABLE OF PERFORMING TO THE SAME LEVEL HE WAS AT BEFORE. THE FACT HE OPTED OUT AND WE HAVEN'T HAD HIM IN THE BUILDING JUST YET COMPOUNDS THE ISSUE EVEN FURTHER
He played the entire season, at an elite level, with the injury.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:37 PM   #1382
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AND SLATER HASN’T PLAYED IN OVER A YEAR.
IS THE REASON AN OPERATION TO HIS BODY? NO? DIDN'T THINK SO
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:38 PM   #1383
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What Veach does in free agency will determine the draft order. I still believe we need two OL with the first 3 picks.
Dumb AF.

You don't draft guys just to draft guys at a position. They need to have every attribute for the scheme, whether they're raw or nearly a finished product.

Throwing picks at a position is a complete waste of cheap but extremely valuable resources.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:38 PM   #1384
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What Veach does in free agency will determine the draft order. I still believe we need two OL with the first 3 picks. Would be fine with a LB in the first but the next two picks after that need to be OL. You can get servicable receivers in the 4th round. A guy like Philyor could be available. If somehow we can land Allen Robinson in a 1-year deal at around $5 millon loaded with incentives, that would be incredible. I don't see Miller sign with us. He will cost too much. Watt is in the same boat. He ain't signing a minimum vet deal with us when he can get 5x that with Cleveland or Buffalo.
No.

Forcing two picks into the o-line and taking a LB in the first?

This isn't 1995.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:38 PM   #1385
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Let me ask a question to the group..

If Niang never got injured wouldn’t he be a likely top 10 pick in this upcoming draft?

Top 15, maybe?
Yes. And the reason he fell to the third is because you can't be 100% sure he'll perform to the same level. Otherwise a team would've just grabbed him.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:39 PM   #1386
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IS THE REASON AN OPERATION TO HIS BODY? NO? DIDN'T THINK SO
Just prepare yourself for disappointment when the Chiefs don’t draft 4 offensive linemen and Niang more than likely gets a starting job.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:39 PM   #1387
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IS THE REASON AN OPERATION TO HIS BODY? NO? DIDN'T THINK SO
That operation happened well over a year ago. He opted out of the 2020 season.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:40 PM   #1388
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Yes. And the reason he fell to the third is because you can't be 100% sure he'll perform to the same level. Otherwise a team would've just grabbed him.
Wrong.

If the Chiefs hadn't drafted him at the bottom of the 3rd round, the man would have been drafted by another team in the 4th or 5th round.

No one is questioning whether or not he could return from the hip injury because it wasn't career threatening.

The issue wasn't with his injury, the issue was with availability.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:40 PM   #1389
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In free agency I expect next to nothing. Keep as many as we can but the COVID Cap leaves us little wiggle room. This offseason is virtually all about the draft.
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Just prepare yourself for disappointment when the Chiefs don’t draft 4 offensive linemen and Niang more than likely gets a starting job.
Hell, I don't care about Niang getting a starting job. Hope he does, but the plan IIRC was to start him on the interior and work his way out, right? That's out the window completely now with circumstances being the way they are, but I just think it's better to pencil him in as the starting RT due to his familiarity there. If some shit happens again next year and he's forced to the left side, that's different, but I just don't think putting him there as his first assignment in the NFL is a good idea.
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Old 02-17-2021, 01:44 PM   #1392
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Hell, I don't care about Niang getting a starting job. Hope he does, but the plan IIRC was to start him on the interior and work his way out, right? That's out the window completely now with circumstances being the way they are, but I just think it's better to pencil him in as the starting RT due to his familiarity there. If some shit happens again next year and he's forced to the left side, that's different, but I just don't think putting him there as his first assignment in the NFL is a good idea.
To be fair, I think the thinking about Niang at LT is that he might need to play there while Fisher is out.

Again, it all hinges on Fisher. If they're intent on bringing him back, putting Niang at LT temporarily plugs a hole. They could use Remmers at RT and then move Niang to RT when Fisher comes back.

Hopefully, we know something about Fisher soon. The entirety of this argument revolves around not knowing what his status is. And Schwartz to a certain extent as well.
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In free agency I expect next to nothing. Keep as many as we can but the COVID Cap leaves us little wiggle room. This offseason is virtually all about the draft.
We're going to see immediate needs addressed during free agency, just like we do every year. We're not going into the draft with a bunch of gaping holes in our roster. We'll do some cap maneuvering and have plenty of ability to sign good players.
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To be fair, I think the thinking about Niang at LT is that he might need to play there while Fisher is out.

Again, it all hinges on Fisher. If they're intent on bringing him back, putting Niang at LT temporarily plugs a hole. They could use Remmers at RT and then move Niang to RT when Fisher comes back.

Hopefully, we know something about Fisher soon. The entirety of this argument revolves around not knowing what his status is. And Schwartz to a certain extent as well.
Regardless, I'd be preparing for a future without him. Wrong side of 30 coming off an achilles injury on the last year of his contract.
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