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Old 09-01-2017, 11:52 AM   #1
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Saved by the booth? You mean proven to not be an INT.....right? ****ing stupid.
Do you not understand what I mean or something? Do you not get that those throws were bad and should be interceptions? Or do you think that the fact that they had a foot out of bounds should be the part of equation that we should bet on going forward?
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:57 AM   #2
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Do you not understand what I mean or something? Do you not get that those throws were bad and should be interceptions? Or do you think that the fact that they had a foot out of bounds should be the part of equation that we should bet on going forward?
The INT that was overturned because the defensive player was out of bounds hit his target in the ****ing hands. It wasn't an errant throw or a bad decision.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:51 AM   #3
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He would absolutely throw interceptions. We have seen him throw several that was saved by the booth. Peyton Freaking Manning, maybe the most cerebral QB of all time threw 30 interceptions starting his rookie year.

I get that we're all excited but stop being intellectually dishonest about this. We were all excited to have him sit a year and learn. Now we've seen the arm talent we expected to see and you're all ready to sacrifice the playoffs to see it sooner. Well playoffs don't come every year and frankly I want to enjoy every postseason I can.
Andy would change many things to prevent INT's.

You're forgetting that Andy is one of the best coaches at scheming. Why do to think Alex doesn't throw many picks? It's because Andy purposely designs screens and quick safe passes that are risk averse.
Once Alex throws a pick, Andy goes into ultra safe conservative mode.

He'd do the same thing with Pat.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:54 AM   #4
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He would absolutely throw interceptions. We have seen him throw several that was saved by the booth. Peyton Freaking Manning, maybe the most cerebral QB of all time threw 28 interceptions starting his rookie year.

I get that we're all excited but stop being intellectually dishonest about this. We were all excited to have him sit a year and learn. Now we've seen the arm talent we expected to see and you're all ready to sacrifice the playoffs to see it sooner. Well playoffs don't come every year and frankly I want to enjoy every postseason I can.

The last Chiefs postseason I enjoyed was in 1993.

What enjoyment did you get out of hosting a playoff game and getting bounced last fall?

What enjoyment did you get from watching the defense collapse in 2014? Or from watching the Patriots methodically dominate a game KC never had a chance to win?

I'm not a proponent of starting Mahomes week 1, but agree with those who think he may be the best option by Week 10, especially if he progresses at the same rate.


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Old 09-01-2017, 12:01 PM   #5
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The last Chiefs postseason I enjoyed was in 1993.

What enjoyment did you get out of hosting a playoff game and getting bounced last fall?

What enjoyment did you get from watching the defense collapse in 2014? Or from watching the Patriots methodically dominate a game KC never had a chance to win?

I'm not a proponent of starting Mahomes week 1, but agree with those who think he may be the best option by Week 10, especially if he progresses at the same rate.


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Old 09-01-2017, 12:24 PM   #6
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The last Chiefs postseason I enjoyed was in 1993.

What enjoyment did you get out of hosting a playoff game and getting bounced last fall?

What enjoyment did you get from watching the defense collapse in 2014? Or from watching the Patriots methodically dominate a game KC never had a chance to win?

I'm not a proponent of starting Mahomes week 1, but agree with those who think he may be the best option by Week 10, especially if he progresses at the same rate.


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Old 09-01-2017, 11:46 AM   #7
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Also, Kiimo you're thinking of this like, Mahomes starting this year means him starting week one. I would love to see him start week 10. We'll be coming off a bye, have a bunch of home games left, and it would give him almost an entire half season under his belt (seven more games and potential playoff game).

Sitting and learning is great, but the best way to learn is by doing. Reid started McNabb in week nine, and I would imagine that's really all the time you need to know the offense and understand what's going on.

Also, I think interceptions are wildly overrated. I'd rather have a QB who throws three TD and two INT than a QB who throws 1TD and 0 INT (on the regular). The math supports that, as well.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:50 AM   #8
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I'm categorically saying we miss the playoffs if he starts. Signing my name to it.

I just think everyone is way too caught up in sucking each others' dicks about this whole thing. Reid is not starting a rookie over his QB who keeps winning games. Period.

And he shouldn't.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:55 AM   #9
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Yeah I'd rather HAVE a post season game to plan around, even if we lose, than not go to one at all.

The postseason when you aren't playing is unwatchable.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:58 AM   #10
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Yeah I'd rather HAVE a post season game to plan around, even if we lose, than not go to one at all.

The postseason when you aren't playing is unwatchable.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:58 AM   #11
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Yeah I'd rather HAVE a post season game to plan around, even if we lose, than not go to one at all.

The postseason when you aren't playing is unwatchable.
so you would rather watch us lose in the playoffs with smith than watch us lose with mahomes and have him learn invaluable lessons?

i respect your point of view but ...dont act like the other point of view is stupid or unreasonable
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When this happened we all were ready to enjoy this last season of Alex Smith making the playoffs in a year where the situation is ripe to actually do some damage.

Mahomes has looked great but I'm not ready to sacrifice that in order to see him sooner. That's it. I don't think we'd make the playoffs with Mahomes and it's kind of useless to try and prove our pure speculation on that one. I think he'll throw picks galore and also look great and we'd ultimately lose.

I get that people hate Smith and hated that Steelers game, I'm right there with you. But yeah throwing away the season when we have a unique situation right now is failing to take advantage of our unique situation. I'm happy that Reid knows better than us what the best course of action is.
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How can Patrick Mahomes II do as good as Alex Smith 15 touchdown season last year
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