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Old 02-22-2013, 04:04 PM   #1
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And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.
There is not one single other QB in this draft that has Geno's combo of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. Not to mention intangibles.

Barkley? Arm sucks, stone feet.
Glennon? Accuracy highly questionable, even less mobile than Barkley.
Wilson? Seems to have the best combo other than Geno. Still not at his level.

Manuel? Bray? Nassib? Dysert? Jones? Not even in the picture. One of these guys probably falls to the 4th.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:09 PM   #2
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There is not one single other QB in this draft that has Geno's combo of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. Not to mention intangibles.

Barkley? Arm sucks, stone feet.
Glennon? Accuracy highly questionable, even less mobile than Barkley.
Wilson? Seems to have the best combo other than Geno. Still not at his level.

Manuel? Bray? Nassib? Dysert? Jones? Not even in the picture. One of these guys probably falls to the 4th.
Bray has the best arm strength but lacks in accuracy and mobility. At least give him some due credit.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:36 AM   #3
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Bray has the best arm strength but lacks in accuracy and mobility. At least give him some due credit.
So why the **** do you want a QB that has accuracy problems ? So you can continue suck ???
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:55 PM   #4
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There is not one single other QB in this draft that has Geno's combo of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. Not to mention intangibles.

Barkley? Arm sucks, stone feet.
Glennon? Accuracy highly questionable, even less mobile than Barkley.
Wilson? Seems to have the best combo other than Geno. Still not at his level.

Manuel? Bray? Nassib? Dysert? Jones? Not even in the picture. One of these guys probably falls to the 4th.
While I agee that Geno's combination of physical and mental attributes is greater, I don't think the separation is quite the chasm you portray it.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:02 PM   #5
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While I agee that Geno's combination of physical and mental attributes is greater, I don't think the separation is quite the chasm you portray it.
I don't think it's a chasm. But I think everything considered he's 10-15% better than his closest competitor.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:05 PM   #6
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While I agee that Geno's combination of physical and mental attributes is greater, I don't think the separation is quite the chasm you portray it.
The separation between Geno, Barkley, and Wilson is small.

The separation between those three and the rest of the class is pretty large.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:10 PM   #7
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The separation between Geno, Barkley, and Wilson is small.

The separation between those three and the rest of the class is pretty large.
This I agree with.

And when you look at it, that smaal separation is parttly responsible for the muddled QB draft situation this year.

I can not remember a draft that didn't didn't have that clear cut #1 guyy.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:11 PM   #8
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The separation between Geno, Barkley, and Wilson is small.

The separation between those three and the rest of the class is pretty large.
What makes Wilson so much better than Nassib or EJ? Wilson is great under pressure, but his overall size, accuracy and history of taking a beating are all pretty big red flags.
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What makes Wilson so much better than Nassib or EJ? Wilson is great under pressure, but his overall size, accuracy and history of taking a beating are all pretty big red flags.
I like Nassib but I don't think he has a very high ceiling. He is "good" in just about every category but not "great" at anything. To me, he's like Andy Dalton, which good enough to get you there but not good enough to win once you're in.

EJ Manuel just didn't impress me. I don't see anything in him that is truly elite. Again, there's a lot things about him to like but there's nothing about him that just makes you say "wow". He's also EXTREMELY raw and therefore a much higher risk, IMO.

Wilson's thing is that he's great under pressure. Wilson is one of those guys that just looks like he has "it". I have more concerns about him than I do about Geno but I do think he has a better arm than Barkley.
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