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Old 01-24-2023, 04:40 PM   Topic Starter
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Bengals offensive line

In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.

Burrow gets the ball out the 2nd fasted in the league. Did he adjust to get the ball out faster to help the line or is the line just playing better. Burrow isn't a guy that is going to extend the play like a Mahomes, so he's not helping keep the sack numbers down like that.

So what is it? Better line play or Burrow is just so fast it's hard to get to him?

If it is because of his quick release, then would us jamming the shit out of the WR help the pass rushers and give them just a big more time? What is the key to getting to Burrow?
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:47 PM   #2
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Burrow actually is very shifty in the pocket, but mainly the ball is coming out too quickly to sack him. Teams are playing 2 deep alot
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:53 PM   #3
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I want tight man bump n run coverage

Double Chase all night, make the other guys beat us and send blitzers thru the A gaps all night... yeah we might give up a few, but thats better than giving Burrow all night IMO
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:57 PM   #4
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I want tight man bump n run coverage

Double Chase all night, make the other guys beat us and send blitzers thru the A gaps all night... yeah we might give up a few, but thats better than giving Burrow all night IMO
Better not see Spags dropping dudes like Karlaftis into covering Chase.
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Old 01-24-2023, 05:12 PM   #5
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Better not see Spags dropping dudes like Karlaftis into covering Chase.
But here's the thing - zone blitzing is how you disrupt a rhythm passer who's relying on short passes.

Yes, everyone's going to get pissed anytime Karlaftis gets isolated in space - but fellas, it's how defense works. Sometimes the bear eats you.

If you run zone blitzes, you're going to have DEs in coverage sometimes. And those zone blitzes that get Burrow thinking he's going to have space for short throws to his hot route only to clutch as he sees a DE flashing into that space are what you're going to have to do to get him thinking and hopefully slow down his processing.

You don't have to like it - but if you think you're not going to see ends in coverage at all, I have really bad news for you.
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Old 01-24-2023, 05:28 PM   #6
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But here's the thing - zone blitzing is how you disrupt a rhythm passer who's relying on short passes...
Isn't this Spags specialty?

I'm thinking a shit-ton of our success will be how well he does dialing up the scheme. Both sides have dogs. In Spags we trust.
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:49 PM   #7
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Can certainly jam at the line, but had better have safety help over the top because if the pass rush doesn’t get home Chase and Higgins will get open. Also, Mixon and Perine are going to get some yardage forcing the safeties to want to come, which then possibly leaves them exposed to the deep ball. I still think they should feast with Cappa and Collins both being out, DL has to do their job though. Need to hit Burrow hard and set the tone.
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Old 01-24-2023, 05:58 PM   #8
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Can certainly jam at the line, but had better have safety help over the top because if the pass rush doesn’t get home Chase and Higgins will get open. Also, Mixon and Perine are going to get some yardage forcing the safeties to want to come, which then possibly leaves them exposed to the deep ball. I still think they should feast with Cappa and Collins both being out, DL has to do their job though. Need to hit Burrow hard and set the tone.
Not just Burrow but the rest of their offense, too.

The defense got pantsed last game. Just an all around embarrassing display. I don't know what other motivation you could possibly need on the defensive side of the ball to destroy these clowns, especially when they're already calling Arrowhead "Burrowhead".
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:50 PM   #9
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Here's what their O-Line plays like when they face the Chiefs:

LT - Anthony Munoz
LG - John Hannah
C - Jim Otto
RG - Will Shields
RT - Forrest Gregg
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Old 01-24-2023, 09:44 PM   #10
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Here's what their O-Line plays like when they face the Chiefs:

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LG - John Hannah
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RT - Forrest Gregg
It sure seems that way.

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Old 01-24-2023, 10:33 PM   #11
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It sure seems that way.

We need the CEO of SackNation to go crazy in this game.
I can think of no better time for Jones to have a monster 2.5 sack postseason performance.
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It’s both. His quick release puts even more pressure on DBs to jam and cover their WRs effectively. Hard to do when they’ve essentially got 3 number 1s on that team plus a solid pass catching TE. Aside from that, the Bengals O line is just playing really well, despite that they’re down 3 starters.

The game on Sunday imo really boils down to who wins in the trenches. If our line can generate enough pressure to cause Burrow to hold the ball even a split second longer then we’ll be in good shape. If not, he’ll pick our young secondary apart and put immense pressure on our offense to keep up. We really, really, really need CJ to blow up the middle consistently in this one.
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:55 PM   #13
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The Bengals had four new offensive linemen to start the year, so I'm sure it took time for them to mesh and learn the protections.
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Old 01-25-2023, 11:47 AM   #14
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The Bengals had four new offensive linemen to start the year, so I'm sure it took time for them to mesh and learn the protections.
Aren't a bunch of them hurt right now ? Didn't seem to matter last week. Maybe the bad field conditions slowed down the Bills pass rush
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Aren't a bunch of them hurt right now ? Didn't seem to matter last week. Maybe the bad field conditions slowed down the Bills pass rush
Yes, they were missing three of their starters last week. The question in the OP was about why their pass protection improved so much after the first 8 weeks of the season. A possible explanation is that they got better with more experience as a unit.

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In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.
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