Eli Mannng vs. Rivers/Peyton - Page 5

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 10:35 PM

Manning and Rivers will forever be linked due to the draft day trade and the Chargers caving in to the pressure from the Mannings. Eli will also forever be compared to Peyton.

Well, it's pretty easy to see who got the better end of the draft day deal so let's move on to the brotherly comparisons. Eli has accomplished more in his first four seasons than Peyton. I have made the statements before and I'll say it again........with all the adversity that Eli had been through I believe he makes better reads and check downs than Peyton and thus is a better all around QB.

I've always felt Peyton had it easy in Indy. He was blessed to have the WR's he's had since coming into the league. It's easy to hit a deer in an open field. Ask Eli how much skill it takes to put the ball in traffic and make reads.

Any comments?

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Eli is taking his team to the Superbowl. End of story. Beating the Packers at Lambeau with Brett Favre magic and all that bullshit is no easy feat. The NFC is a weaker conference, no doubt, but to act like the Chargers would steamroll the Packers or Giants is ludicrous.

Well I think they're a better team, they wouldn't "steamroll" them but San Diego is better than those 2 NFC teams.

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Hey just sayin, Rivers supposedly has a partial tear of his ACL and he was playing...Croyle sat with what was it a some sort of bruise...

Anyway just their histories say Rivers is more durable.

What does this have to do with Eli vs. Rivers and the level of maturity being displayed by Rivers during/after games.

Hammock Parties · 01-20-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud

Why is this so confusing? The Giants held Tampa Bay to 14, Dallas to 17 and Green Bay to 20. All of these games were on the road. Have you been living under a rock? New York's incredible pass rush might be the best in the league. Tonight they totally shut down Green Bay's running game.

**dirk digler** · 01-20-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Their defense is actually.

I disagree. The game plan for every team playing the Giants used to be stop the run and let Eli try to beat you because you knew he was going to throw 2-3 INT's a game.

It is no coincidence they have played their best football when Eli hasn't thrown 1 INT

Hammock Parties · 01-20-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I disagree.

Again look at the numbers. New York's defense has been throttling people.

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It is no coincidence they have played their best football when Eli hasn't thrown 1 INT

Great he's the perfect QB for Herm Edwards.

**dirk digler** · 01-20-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Hey just sayin, Rivers supposedly has a partial tear of his ACL and he was playing...Croyle sat with what was it a some sort of bruise...

Anyway just their histories say Rivers is more durable.

The same thing happened with Rivers last week didn't it? He got hurt and couldn't come back in the game and then played this week.

Croyle got hurt and then came back the following week.

Pablo · 01-20-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I hope all players show personality, I don't want the league to become this nameless faceless league where no one has any personality and they are just robots.

Arguing and making angry 12 year old faces at fans doesn't equal personality. I watch football for the game, I don't care about some stupid fuck making predictions or telling me to get my popcorn ready..or yelling at fans/coaching staffs/their own team. If T.O. scores a touchdown and has a nice celebration, fine. I'd just like him to shut his mouth off the field about popcorn, Jessica Simpson, etc.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud

What does this have to do with Eli vs. Rivers and the level of maturity being displayed by Rivers during/after games.

I have to use comparisons people understand around here, I suspect most people around here watch other teams and follow the league but some posts I read honestly make me think some posters don't watch any teams but the Chiefs.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

The same thing happened with Rivers last week didn't it? He got hurt and couldn't come back in the game and then played this week.

Croyle got hurt and then came back the following week.

Did Croyle not start a game then sit out a week due to some injury?

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Hey just sayin, Rivers supposedly has a partial tear of his ACL and he was playing...Croyle sat with what was it a some sort of bruise...

Anyway just their histories say Rivers is more durable.

I wouldn't say having a torn ACL (or whatever the injury is) and still playing makes you durable. Broke is broke. The argument could be that his immaturity could have cost his team the game. Maybe he should've yielded to Volek. It may have given the Chargers a better chance to win. We will never know. That is why that whole "courageous" statement made by Castillo sounded ignorant. Rivers could have potentially cost them the game. The only saving grace for him is that playing vs. not playing was the coaches decision. Unless Rivers wasn't completely honest about how bad the pain was and the effect it was having on his playing ability.

Hammock Parties · 01-20-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Did Croyle not start a game then sit out a week due to some injury?

You're comparing apples to oranges. I'm sure Croyle would have played if it was the AFC Champ.

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I have to use comparisons people understand around here, I suspect most people around here watch other teams and follow the league but some posts I read honestly make me think some posters don't watch any teams but the Chiefs.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Arguing and making angry 12 year old faces at fans doesn't equal personality. I watch football for the game, I don't care about some stupid fuck making predictions or telling me to get my popcorn ready..or yelling at fans/coaching staffs/their own team. If T.O. scores a touchdown and has a nice celebration, fine. I'd just like him to shut his mouth off the field about popcorn, Jessica Simpson, etc.

See I don't see what the problem with what TO does is, it's not like he's some guy who gets arrested or is some thug. I think over time that's become one of my issues with the league.

A guy like TO is considered a worse guy than someone like Randy McMichael who's been arrested for beating his wife multiple times. The quiet guy that beats his wife is more ok than the guy who does nothing bad but speaks his mind, how's that alright?

Pablo · 01-20-2008, 11:29 PM

Tamba Hali wasn't courageous for playing injured most of this season. He was stupid. I know it isn't the same concept because we weren't in a big game situation. If you're hurt, sit the hell down. The team ran smooth with Billy Volek in there, a 80% Phillip Rivers is not going to beat the Patriots.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud

I wouldn't say having a torn ACL (or whatever the injury is) and still playing makes you durable. Broke is broke. The argument could be that his immaturity could have cost his team the game. Maybe he should've yielded to Volek. It may have given the Chargers a better chance to win. We will never know. That is why that whole "courageous" statement made by Castillo sounded ignorant. Rivers could have potentially cost them the game. The only saving grace for him is that playing vs. not playing was the coaches decision. Unless Rivers wasn't completely honest about how bad the pain was and the effect it was having on his playing ability.

He's immature because he played WTF? Now that is just some bullshit because you don't like Rivers. If Favre does that he's a hero, Rivers does it and he's immature, jesus christ.

01-20-2008, 10:35 PM
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Eli Mannng vs. Rivers/Peyton Manning and Rivers will forever be linked due to the draft day trade and the Chargers caving in to the pressure from the Mannings. Eli will also forever be compared to Peyton. Well, it's pretty easy to see who got the better end of the draft day deal so let's move on to the brotherly comparisons. Eli has accomplished more in his first four seasons than Peyton. I have made the statements before and I'll say it again........with all the adversity that Eli had been through I believe he makes better reads and check downs than Peyton and thus is a better all around QB. I've always felt Peyton had it easy in Indy. He was blessed to have the WR's he's had since coming into the league. It's easy to hit a deer in an open field. Ask Eli how much skill it takes to put the ball in traffic and make reads. Any comments?
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01-20-2008, 11:29 PM	#74
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $1849356	Tamba Hali wasn't courageous for playing injured most of this season. He was stupid. I know it isn't the same concept because we weren't in a big game situation. If you're hurt, sit the hell down. The team ran smooth with Billy Volek in there, a 80% Phillip Rivers is not going to beat the Patriots.
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