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Pass O 1 | 6 | 50.00% | |
2 | 2 | 16.67% | |
3 | 2 | 16.67% | |
4 | 0 | 0% | |
5 | 0 | 0% | |
6 | 1 | 8.33% | |
7 | 1 | 8.33% | |
Run O 1 | 1 | 8.33% | |
2 | 0 | 0% | |
3 | 3 | 25.00% | |
4 | 1 | 8.33% | |
5 | 3 | 25.00% | |
6 | 1 | 8.33% | |
7 | 3 | 25.00% | |
Pass Block 1 | 0 | 0% | |
2 | 0 | 0% | |
3 | 4 | 33.33% | |
4 | 4 | 33.33% | |
5 | 0 | 0% | |
6 | 3 | 25.00% | |
7 | 1 | 8.33% | |
Run Block 1 | 0 | 0% | |
2 | 0 | 0% | |
3 | 2 | 16.67% | |
4 | 1 | 8.33% | |
5 | 3 | 25.00% | |
6 | 2 | 16.67% | |
7 | 3 | 25.00% | |
Pass Rush 1 | 1 | 8.33% | |
2 | 6 | 50.00% | |
3 | 1 | 8.33% | |
4 | 2 | 16.67% | |
5 | 1 | 8.33% | |
6 | 0 | 0% | |
7 | 1 | 8.33% | |
Run D 1 | 4 | 33.33% | |
2 | 1 | 8.33% | |
3 | 2 | 16.67% | |
4 | 4 | 33.33% | |
5 | 1 | 8.33% | |
6 | 0 | 0% | |
7 | 0 | 0% | |
Pass Coverage 1 | 0 | 0% | |
2 | 3 | 25.00% | |
3 | 1 | 8.33% | |
4 | 0 | 0% | |
5 | 3 | 25.00% | |
6 | 4 | 33.33% | |
7 | 1 | 8.33% | |
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08-20-2012, 11:57 AM | |
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which phases OF the game ARE the most important?
I recently made a thread that compared skill at different positions to the number of wins that team had in a season: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=262213 Some results were surprising, some weren't. I realized, however, that the comparison isn't completely valid, because many teams will use a player at a certain position much differently than other teams will. Some teams rely almost exclusively on their WRs for the passing game, some utilize their TEs and RB/FBs more. Some teams use their FBs in the passing game, some use them in the running game, and some go an entire season without anyone lining up as a FB at all. Hardly any teams rely on a 4-3 OLB to rush the passer the way Denver does with Miller.
So, I decided to do the same thing but using a team's combined rating for a phase rather than a single player's rating. The phases are: Pass O Run O Pass Block Run Block Pass Rush Run D Pass Coverage Rank them, 1 being the most important, 7 being the least important. I'll post the order that each phase correlated with wins later. Last edited by MagicHef; 08-20-2012 at 03:11 PM.. |
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08-20-2012, 12:00 PM | #2 |
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08-20-2012, 12:06 PM | #3 |
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I think it's awfully silly to put the respective types of offense and their blocking in different categories. Isn't pass blocking a part of the passing offense?
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08-20-2012, 12:10 PM | #4 |
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With today's rules?
1 - QB. Put me down for a 6 on everybody else. |
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08-20-2012, 12:14 PM | #5 |
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In a way, but the job of an OL and the job of a WR almost never overlap. The job of a DL and the job of a CB can overlap on any running play. It's cleaner to look at them seperately, and they actually have much different effects on wins.
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08-20-2012, 12:15 PM | #6 |
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What about cheer leading and crowd factor .Those are important too.
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08-20-2012, 12:26 PM | #7 |
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I don't think you're going to deduce much from this poll because we fans aren't really very smart for the most part.
That said, I think it all starts in the trenches. Without run blocking, Eric Dickerson looks like ass. Without pass blocking, Tom Brady doesn't have time to find a target. So I placed a premium on the line play for the purposes of this poll. I think lots of RB could look good behind a great run blocking line and Denver has proven that many times. |
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08-20-2012, 12:35 PM | #8 |
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Tailgaiting is pretty ****ing important
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08-20-2012, 01:10 PM | #10 |
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The order that each area correlated with wins:
1) Pass O 2) Pass Coverage 3) Run O 4) Run D 5) Run Block 6) Pass Block 7) Pass Rush
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08-20-2012, 01:36 PM | #11 |
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It's not a "phase" of the game but I think you have to carry a 1.5 possession lead and getting the ball back to start the second half.
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08-20-2012, 01:45 PM | #12 |
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The #1 passrushing team: Eagles - 8 wins #3 passrushing team: Cowboys - 8 wins Absolute worst passrushing team: Saints - 13 wins 4th worst passrushing team: Packers - 15 wins
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08-20-2012, 03:02 PM | #14 |
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The willy nilly nature of the capitalization of letters in the thread subject leaves me no choice but to not participate.
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Guinness on tap and pass rush -- everything else is #2
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