You May Run, But You May Not Catch....

**CosmicPal** · 10-05-2004, 08:40 AM

Question:

I was quite surprised to see Priest go another game without catching many balls. As a matter of fact, I don't recall him catching any passes in last night's brilliant win.

What's up with this?

Are we really trying to help Priest gain the single season rushing record by abandoning the pass to him?

**BigRedChief** · 10-05-2004, 08:43 AM

And while we are at it...WTF is the Priest screen? We havent saw it all year...And why doesnt Priest pull up on those sweeps and throw the ball down field sometimes?

Gaz · 10-05-2004, 08:44 AM

Teams are covering the screen to Holmes. When he slips out of the backfield, someone goes with him. Once we establish the ground game, the screen will follow. Until then, enjoy the 125 yards against the ÜberDefense of Baltimore.

xoxo~
Gaz
Uses the weapons where they do the most damage.

Hoover · 10-05-2004, 08:46 AM

I have no proble on how we use Priest.

The dude is a work horse, 32 carries last week, 33 this week, wanting more touches is stupid. I'll take him running the ball over catching the ball. Just watch, when we need it the most we will use him in the passing game. What I would like to see more of is Trich in the passing game.

**CosmicPal** · 10-05-2004, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz

Teams are covering the screen to Holmes. When he slips out of the backfield, someone goes with him. Once we establish the ground game, the screen will follow. Until then, enjoy the 125 yards against the ÜberDefense of Baltimore.

xoxo~
Gaz
Uses the weapons where they do the most damage.

he only has 5 catches for 14 yards after 4 games, very unPriest-like

I don't think the Chiefs would abandon the screen play after 5 throws

jspchief · 10-05-2004, 08:54 AM

Baltimore was not the team to try and get the screen working against...their LBs are too fast and Reed is too solid at picking up plays like that.

We won't have an effective screen until we have a legitimate deep threat. When teams are comfortable with 1-on-1 against our WRs, safeties are able to sit back and cover Gonzo and the screen. Hopefully a healthy Kennison can scare some teams alittle.

Gaz · 10-05-2004, 08:56 AM

125 yards against the formidable Baltimore Defense. He did not NEED to catch any passes. This time, he did it on the ground and the WRs handled the passes.

And it worked, did it not?

Why complain that we did not do an unnecessary thing?

You might as well complain that we used Gonzalez as a decoy and threw to Dunn. That was very un-Gonzalez-like, wasn't it?

xoxo~
Gaz
Groping for the objection.

ROYC75 · 10-05-2004, 09:06 AM

Agreed that teams are prepaired for the screens this year plus last night wasn't a good time to use them.

Agreed when we get the deep threat back on offense and teams are respecting the run again, we will then dump off the screen passes for large gains.

It time, all will come together well at the end of the year. It's called peaking at the right time.

Our problem now is, with the 3 losses, can we get to the end of the year with our team peaking for the playoffs.

**CosmicPal** · 10-05-2004, 09:21 AM

Guys..please....

I'm not complaining or beetching...I am just simply curious. It seemed to be the normal offense the past few years to have Priest run while catching quite a few balls.

It just seems like they've abandoned it thus far...and I'm just curious to know why

Gaz · 10-05-2004, 09:29 AM

The screen depends on deception. When you have no deep threat [Kennison], The Enemy can condense the field. The screen does not work when the area just beyond the LOS is jammed with defenders. Too much clutter.

The screen will return when circumstances call for it.

xoxo~
Gaz
Saw too many Chiefs screens blown up already this year.

Straight, No Chaser · 10-05-2004, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicPal

Question:

I was quite surprised to see Priest go another game without catching many balls. As a matter of fact, I don't recall him catching any passes in last night's brilliant win.

What's up with this?
...

1/2 of it: The John Tait factor. Whatever you think about the RLDS with money in both hip pockets, he could pull out and play roadgrater on that play. I'm hoping AL keeps that on the back burner until Welbourn develops.

other 1/2 of it: Teams have highlight clips of that play committed to memory.

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Coogs · 10-05-2004, 09:35 AM

I'll take that game plan last night every single game the rest of the way in. Ball control by way of the run and play-action pass is exactly what this team needs. We don't need quick scores. Look what that did for Baltimore last night. Wore out a great defense.

Let the offensive line dominate the game. BTW, Black was very impressive in relief of Waters last night too. Good to see.

DV, Gun, and AS were very good last night. I thought they were against the Texans too. The players were very good last night. I thought they were against the Texans too. We dominated two straight games. We were a bit unlucky against the Texans.

Things are looking up. We have a pulse.

**morphius** · 10-05-2004, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicPal

Guys..please....

I'm not complaining or beetching...I am just simply curious. It seemed to be the normal offense the past few years to have Priest run while catching quite a few balls.

It just seems like they've abandoned it thus far...and I'm just curious to know why

It seems that everytime we have tried to run it the other teams have read it and kept Holmes from getting out of the backfield or had someone all over him.

I'm sure we willl see it soon, but right now the play action pass is working great.

Coogs · 10-05-2004, 09:36 AM

One other note....

Tynes...

**BigRedChief** · 10-05-2004, 09:38 AM

Okay so they are ready for the screen, he's running the ball well. Why bother...good points. But what about having Priest throw the ball? Seems like that ia play that is et up real well if they are all keying on Priest.

10-05-2004, 08:40 AM
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	You May Run, But You May Not Catch.... Question: I was quite surprised to see Priest go another game without catching many balls. As a matter of fact, I don't recall him catching any passes in last night's brilliant win. What's up with this? Are we really trying to help Priest gain the single season rushing record by abandoning the pass to him?
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10-05-2004, 08:43 AM	#2
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3139627 VARSITY	And while we are at it...WTF is the Priest screen? We havent saw it all year...And why doesnt Priest pull up on those sweeps and throw the ball down field sometimes? __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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10-05-2004, 08:44 AM	#3
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	A screen does not work if The Enemy is prepared... Teams are covering the screen to Holmes. When he slips out of the backfield, someone goes with him. Once we establish the ground game, the screen will follow. Until then, enjoy the 125 yards against the ÜberDefense of Baltimore. xoxo~ Gaz Uses the weapons where they do the most damage.
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10-05-2004, 08:46 AM	#4
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1658179	I have no proble on how we use Priest. The dude is a work horse, 32 carries last week, 33 this week, wanting more touches is stupid. I'll take him running the ball over catching the ball. Just watch, when we need it the most we will use him in the passing game. What I would like to see more of is Trich in the passing game.
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10-05-2004, 08:54 AM	#6
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Baltimore was not the team to try and get the screen working against...their LBs are too fast and Reed is too solid at picking up plays like that. We won't have an effective screen until we have a legitimate deep threat. When teams are comfortable with 1-on-1 against our WRs, safeties are able to sit back and cover Gonzo and the screen. Hopefully a healthy Kennison can scare some teams alittle. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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10-05-2004, 08:56 AM	#7
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	It doesn't matter HOW he is used, as long as it is effective... 125 yards against the formidable Baltimore Defense. He did not NEED to catch any passes. This time, he did it on the ground and the WRs handled the passes. And it worked, did it not? Why complain that we did not do an unnecessary thing? You might as well complain that we used Gonzalez as a decoy and threw to Dunn. That was very un-Gonzalez-like, wasn't it? xoxo~ Gaz Groping for the objection.
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10-05-2004, 09:06 AM	#8
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5679400	Agreed that teams are prepaired for the screens this year plus last night wasn't a good time to use them. Agreed when we get the deep threat back on offense and teams are respecting the run again, we will then dump off the screen passes for large gains. It time, all will come together well at the end of the year. It's called peaking at the right time. Our problem now is, with the 3 losses, can we get to the end of the year with our team peaking for the playoffs. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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10-05-2004, 09:21 AM	#9
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	Guys..please.... I'm not complaining or beetching...I am just simply curious. It seemed to be the normal offense the past few years to have Priest run while catching quite a few balls. It just seems like they've abandoned it thus far...and I'm just curious to know why __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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10-05-2004, 09:29 AM	#10
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	jspchief covered it in Post #6... The screen depends on deception. When you have no deep threat [Kennison], The Enemy can condense the field. The screen does not work when the area just beyond the LOS is jammed with defenders. Too much clutter. The screen will return when circumstances call for it. xoxo~ Gaz Saw too many Chiefs screens blown up already this year.
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10-05-2004, 09:35 AM	#12
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1604349	I'll take that game plan last night every single game the rest of the way in. Ball control by way of the run and play-action pass is exactly what this team needs. We don't need quick scores. Look what that did for Baltimore last night. Wore out a great defense. Let the offensive line dominate the game. BTW, Black was very impressive in relief of Waters last night too. Good to see. DV, Gun, and AS were very good last night. I thought they were against the Texans too. The players were very good last night. I thought they were against the Texans too. We dominated two straight games. We were a bit unlucky against the Texans. Things are looking up. We have a pulse.
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10-05-2004, 09:36 AM	#14
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1604349	One other note.... Tynes...
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10-05-2004, 09:38 AM	#15
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3139627 VARSITY	Okay so they are ready for the screen, he's running the ball well. Why bother...good points. But what about having Priest throw the ball? Seems like that ia play that is et up real well if they are all keying on Priest. __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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