Teams are really going after McLeon

CrazyHorse · 10-08-2004, 10:40 AM

I hadn't seen this posted yet. I was wondering if anyone else noticed how one sided the passing attack has been on our defense? It seems that most completed pass plays can be blamed on McLeon.

Warfield has been a consistent surprize so far. As of last week has was leading the league in INTs. I have also seen a lot of passes defensed on his side.

I think it's the best we have seen out of Warfield.

Just thought it was notable.

jspchief · 10-08-2004, 10:49 AM

I think it's the combination of Warfield playing well, and McCleon playing so poorly. It's become evident that a tall WR has a big advantage on McCleon, more so with the emphasis on pass interference. I expect teams to be picking on him all year.

10-08-2004, 10:50 AM

"McLeon"

Is that an intentional dig or do you really not know how to spell his name?

Mr. Laz · 10-08-2004, 10:53 AM

yea, i really expected a better performance from McCleon

he seems to have good form etc ... he just doesn't seem to have the speed to keep up with some receivers anymore.

he prolly needs to be our nickleback so we can control who he goes up against more.

InChiefsHeaven · 10-08-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

"McLeon"

Is that an intentional dig or do you really not know how to spell his name?

I didn't even notice that...

...I can just see Dexter now, telling Gun that he would do much better for the team by just sitting on the bench with a look of pain and anguish for the cameras...

...that's powerful stuff, it is...

Chiefnj · 10-08-2004, 10:58 AM

I can't really tell from tv and haven't paid all that much attention, but do the Chiefs put Warfield against the opposing teams best receiver and have him shadow the guy, or do they split the field and whoever happens to be on that side Warfield gets.

chop · 10-08-2004, 11:03 AM

I know alot of you don't like Bartee that much but I'll be glad when he returns. He was playing pretty good before he got hurt.

**gblowfish** · 10-08-2004, 11:10 AM

I've got friends in St. Louis (I know...forgive me) who used to watch McCleon with the Lambs. They called him "Oh Dexter" because he got torched all the time, and all you could say was "Oh...Dexter..."

"Toasty" Warfield has played much better so far, but he has a history of back trouble, and it'll be interesting to see if he can get thru a whole year healthy (Kind of like Mike Sweeney).

"Crispy" Bartee is just plain awful, no matter how you slice it.

Throw in "Oh Dexter" and Julian "Five Yards & a 1st Down" Battle, and it's a pretty ugly bunch of corners. I'm OK with Woods and Wesley. Man, what I'd give to have Ross, Lewis, Carter (without the handgun) or Hasty in their prime right about now.

**ChiTown** · 10-08-2004, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I've got friends in St. Louis (I know...forgive me) who used to watch McCleon with the Lambs. They called him "Oh Dexter" because he got torched all the time, and all you could say was "Oh...Dexter..."

"Toasty" Warfield has played much better so far, but he has a history of back trouble, and it'll be interesting to see if he can get thru a whole year healthy (Kind of like Mike Sweeney).

"Crispy" Bartee is just plain awful, no matter how you slice it.

Throw in "Oh Dexter" and Julian "Five Yards & a 1st Down" Battle, and it's a pretty ugly bunch of corners. I'm OK with Woods and Wesley. Man, what I'd give to have Ross, Lewis, Carter (without the handgun) or Hasty in their prime right about now.

Toasty Warfield? Where you gettin' that. Dude has been rock solid the last 2 years.

InChiefsHeaven · 10-08-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Toasty Warfield? Where you gettin' that. Dude has been rock solid the last 2 years.

THat he has. I think that people got so used to slamming on the guy, they totally missed out on his obvious improvement.

Warfield is the LEAST of our defensive worries by far. In fact, over the last 2 years, he has been the best thing we've had going on D by far...

beer bacon · 10-08-2004, 11:54 AM

I am glass is half full kind of guy. It is not because McCleon is playing especially bad, it is because Warfield is shutting down his receiver and catching anything that comes his way.

**ChiTown** · 10-08-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by beer baron

I am glass is half full kind of guy. It is not because McCleon is playing especially bad, it is because Warfield is shutting down his receiver and catching anything that comes his way.

It's because Warfield is playing really well and McCleon sucks. It's really that simple....

KHinz57 · 10-08-2004, 12:00 PM

I've seen quite enough of the over-paid Dexter McCleon, I hate to say it, I really do, but it's William Bartee time!

beer bacon · 10-08-2004, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

It's because Warfield is playing really well and McCleon sucks. It's really that simple....

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Originally Posted by bear baron

I am a glass is half full kind of guy.

Mr. Laz · 10-08-2004, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Toasty Warfield? Where you gettin' that. Dude has been rock solid the last 2 years.

he has been "passable" the last 2 years

its amazing how far the expectations for cornerbacks around KC have fallen.

10-08-2004, 10:40 AM
CrazyHorse All Motor! Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Teams are really going after McLeon I hadn't seen this posted yet. I was wondering if anyone else noticed how one sided the passing attack has been on our defense? It seems that most completed pass plays can be blamed on McLeon. Warfield has been a consistent surprize so far. As of last week has was leading the league in INTs. I have also seen a lot of passes defensed on his side. I think it's the best we have seen out of Warfield. Just thought it was notable.
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10-08-2004, 10:49 AM	#2
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I think it's the combination of Warfield playing well, and McCleon playing so poorly. It's become evident that a tall WR has a big advantage on McCleon, more so with the emphasis on pass interference. I expect teams to be picking on him all year. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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10-08-2004, 10:50 AM	#3
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	"McLeon" Is that an intentional dig or do you really not know how to spell his name?
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10-08-2004, 10:53 AM	#4
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	yea, i really expected a better performance from McCleon he seems to have good form etc ... he just doesn't seem to have the speed to keep up with some receivers anymore. he prolly needs to be our nickleback so we can control who he goes up against more. __________________
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10-08-2004, 10:58 AM	#6
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	I can't really tell from tv and haven't paid all that much attention, but do the Chiefs put Warfield against the opposing teams best receiver and have him shadow the guy, or do they split the field and whoever happens to be on that side Warfield gets. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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10-08-2004, 11:03 AM	#7
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2634270	I know alot of you don't like Bartee that much but I'll be glad when he returns. He was playing pretty good before he got hurt.
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10-08-2004, 11:10 AM	#8
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17596178 VARSITY	I've got friends in St. Louis (I know...forgive me) who used to watch McCleon with the Lambs. They called him "Oh Dexter" because he got torched all the time, and all you could say was "Oh...Dexter..." "Toasty" Warfield has played much better so far, but he has a history of back trouble, and it'll be interesting to see if he can get thru a whole year healthy (Kind of like Mike Sweeney). "Crispy" Bartee is just plain awful, no matter how you slice it. Throw in "Oh Dexter" and Julian "Five Yards & a 1st Down" Battle, and it's a pretty ugly bunch of corners. I'm OK with Woods and Wesley. Man, what I'd give to have Ross, Lewis, Carter (without the handgun) or Hasty in their prime right about now.
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10-08-2004, 11:54 AM	#11
beer bacon WHAT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10019545	I am glass is half full kind of guy. It is not because McCleon is playing especially bad, it is because Warfield is shutting down his receiver and catching anything that comes his way.
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10-08-2004, 12:00 PM	#13
KHinz57 Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leavenworth, KS Casino cash: $10004900	I've seen quite enough of the over-paid Dexter McCleon, I hate to say it, I really do, but it's William Bartee time!
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