Now Collins is # 2? Why ?

Idahojim · 11-30-2000, 05:00 PM

Why now,not sooner? Moon was # 2 and Probally should be all year,if not,why have him here! If Collins is our #2,why not the 1st of the year ? :confused:

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Moon§hiner · 11-30-2000, 05:03 PM

Maybe it's because Moon looked like a 100-year old man against San Diego.

DoubleWannaB · 11-30-2000, 05:19 PM

Yeah, we need to get that guy some practice ASAP obviously.

BigChiefsFan · 11-30-2000, 06:15 PM

Moon looked like shit, that's why.

I doubt if it's Gun trying to save his a$$ after the debacle in SD. That sucker's already roasted, packed and headed out of town, IMO. Let's just hope the rest of the staff/mgt. goes with him.

If Collins has to play and looks as bad as Moon, then what in the hell do we do?

MM
--With Raye calling the plays, does it really matter?

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Yosef_Malkovitch · 11-30-2000, 06:21 PM

You know, Collins could be just as bad, but that doesn't mean that he would stay that way. In Moon's defense, when was the last time he started and had any real play time. Granted he is old. i am not saying that you get him in rythem, and he will look like some young stud out there, but I think that he could get the job done. Collins will probaly be rusty as well, so don't pass judgement on him after one game.

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BigChiefsFan · 11-30-2000, 06:31 PM

hader--
Very good point. I hadn't considered that. But why did he look so good to start the game? I would shudder to think that Raye had actually had a decent game plan coming in. I'm kind of curious as to where it went.

How long has Collins been in the league? Five or six years? Is his contract up soon?

MM
--Hopes we don't have to draft our QB of the future...haven't had much luck there.

(Gotta go eat soon...will try to stay around for answer. Don't wanna be Denise-like)

Yosef_Malkovitch · 11-30-2000, 06:36 PM

I don't know much about Collins or his current contract. Sorry. As for starting the game good then going bad, well I am afraid that I can't really help there either. It coul be anything, from coaching/playcalling to who knows what. The ebb and flow of a game can be weird sometimes. Sorry I wasn't of much help.

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BigChiefsFan · 11-30-2000, 06:40 PM

hader--
Not a problem. I mean, who do I think you are, Bob Gretz or something? Wait a second--sorry about that. Didn't mean to be insulting. :D

I'll check out the Chiefs site tonight if I can. Otherwise, tomorrow.

MM
--Gotta go get some grub. Type y'all tomorrow.

milkman · 11-30-2000, 07:22 PM

hader - Damn you! Now I can't hate Moon as much as I would like to! UGH!!! BTW, Gannon was always that way his first game after taking over starting position.

Gunther has said that Collins has gotten better as the year went along, aapearntly Moon has not.

Gracie Dean · 11-30-2000, 08:17 PM

I think Collins is in his second year of a 4 year contract.

Yosef_Malkovitch · 11-30-2000, 08:19 PM

Sorry Morph, but I had to point it out in fairness to Moon. He has been getting crucified unfairly. Just continue to take your frustrations out on Gun and the Three Stooges. I don't know why you would change that anyways. :confused:

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Yosemity Sam · 11-30-2000, 09:15 PM

I believe Collins was number 2 for the majority of camp. It would be interesting to see if hes really any worse than Moon.

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DoubleWannaB Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah, we need to get that guy some practice ASAP obviously.
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11-30-2000, 06:15 PM	#4
BigChiefsFan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Moon looked like shit, that's why. I doubt if it's Gun trying to save his a$$ after the debacle in SD. That sucker's already roasted, packed and headed out of town, IMO. Let's just hope the rest of the staff/mgt. goes with him. If Collins has to play and looks as bad as Moon, then what in the hell do we do? MM --With Raye calling the plays, does it really matter? [This message has been edited by Mark M (edited 11-30-2000).]
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11-30-2000, 06:21 PM	#5
Yosef_Malkovitch The Lurkiest Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wichita, KS. Casino cash: $4415999	You know, Collins could be just as bad, but that doesn't mean that he would stay that way. In Moon's defense, when was the last time he started and had any real play time. Granted he is old. i am not saying that you get him in rythem, and he will look like some young stud out there, but I think that he could get the job done. Collins will probaly be rusty as well, so don't pass judgement on him after one game. ------------------ WILDCATS 29 corn balls 28
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11-30-2000, 06:31 PM	#6
BigChiefsFan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	hader-- Very good point. I hadn't considered that. But why did he look so good to start the game? I would shudder to think that Raye had actually had a decent game plan coming in. I'm kind of curious as to where it went. How long has Collins been in the league? Five or six years? Is his contract up soon? MM --Hopes we don't have to draft our QB of the future...haven't had much luck there. (Gotta go eat soon...will try to stay around for answer. Don't wanna be Denise-like)
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11-30-2000, 06:36 PM	#7
Yosef_Malkovitch The Lurkiest Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wichita, KS. Casino cash: $4415999	I don't know much about Collins or his current contract. Sorry. As for starting the game good then going bad, well I am afraid that I can't really help there either. It coul be anything, from coaching/playcalling to who knows what. The ebb and flow of a game can be weird sometimes. Sorry I wasn't of much help. ------------------ WILDCATS 29 corn balls 28
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11-30-2000, 05:00 PM
Idahojim Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Nampa, Idaho, USA Casino cash: $9965995	Why now,not sooner? Moon was # 2 and Probally should be all year,if not,why have him here! If Collins is our #2,why not the 1st of the year ? :confused: [This message has been edited by ROYC75 (edited 11-30-2000).]
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11-30-2000, 05:03 PM	#2
Moon§hiner Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas, USA Casino cash: $10005272	Maybe it's because Moon looked like a 100-year old man against San Diego.
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BigChiefsFan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	hader-- Not a problem. I mean, who do I think you are, Bob Gretz or something? Wait a second--sorry about that. Didn't mean to be insulting. :D I'll check out the Chiefs site tonight if I can. Otherwise, tomorrow. MM --Gotta go get some grub. Type y'all tomorrow.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	hader - Damn you! Now I can't hate Moon as much as I would like to! UGH!!! BTW, Gannon was always that way his first game after taking over starting position. Gunther has said that Collins has gotten better as the year went along, aapearntly Moon has not.
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11-30-2000, 08:17 PM	#10
Gracie Dean MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I think Collins is in his second year of a 4 year contract.
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11-30-2000, 08:19 PM	#11
Yosef_Malkovitch The Lurkiest Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wichita, KS. Casino cash: $4415999	Sorry Morph, but I had to point it out in fairness to Moon. He has been getting crucified unfairly. Just continue to take your frustrations out on Gun and the Three Stooges. I don't know why you would change that anyways. :confused: ------------------ WILDCATS 29 corn balls 28
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11-30-2000, 09:15 PM	#12
Yosemity Sam Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I believe Collins was number 2 for the majority of camp. It would be interesting to see if hes really any worse than Moon.
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