Chiefs leading the Surtain Race

Archie Bunker · 02-27-2005, 12:03 AM

Thoughts?

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphin...flru_0227.html

Chiefs lead possible Surtain suitors
The Dolphins are closer to dealing the All-Pro cornerback and defensive tackle Jeff Zgonina.
By Greg A. Bedard, Joe Schad

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Sunday, February 27, 2005

INDIANAPOLIS — There has been progress in the search for a team willing to trade for Dolphins Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Surtain.

The Kansas City Chiefs, Indianapolis Colts and Oakland Raiders are among many teams that have expressed an interest in Surtain, who asked for and received permission to seek a trade. The Chiefs, who would be in a position to trade their second-round pick (46th overall), are the favorite at this point, according to a league source.

tk13 · 02-27-2005, 12:07 AM

Guh. I guess it would be the most surefire way of getting somebody without getting into a bidding war, and Carl sucks at 2nd round picks, but considering we don't have a 3rd I don't think I like this move.... unless we bring in a 2nd cornerback in FA somehow.

Archie Bunker · 02-27-2005, 12:09 AM

Any idea on how much he is going to want? I would rather have Smoot, Rolle, or Lucas myself.

KevB · 02-27-2005, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Guh. I guess it would be the most surefire way of getting somebody without getting into a bidding war, and Carl sucks at 2nd round picks, but considering we don't have a 3rd I don't think I like this move.... unless we bring in a 2nd cornerback in FA somehow.

It is strange with guys on the open market that we're willing to give up a 2nd rounder. Maybe the report is erroneous, who knows. I'm not going to complain about it until it plays out.

**RealSNR** · 02-27-2005, 12:10 AM

I remember when we could've had Zgonina for less than that shit in a bag Holliday

whoman69 · 02-27-2005, 12:12 AM

I don't favor trading for picks, it doesn't bode well for the future. It is a 2nd rounder and Karl hasn't had a decent 2nd rounder in more than a dozen years.

**Rausch** · 02-27-2005, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Any idea on how much he is going to want? I would rather have Smoot, Rolle, or Lucas myself.

I wouldn't.

Archie Bunker · 02-27-2005, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I wouldn't.

His knee problem worries me. I have to admit I never watch the Dolphins so he might be better than I give him credit for.

cheeeefs · 02-27-2005, 12:24 AM

not excited about giving up a 2nd rounder for him. But personally I would rather have him than any other CB out there all things considered. If we do get him you won't hear any complaining from me!

**Rausch** · 02-27-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

His knee problem worries me. I have to admit I never watch the Dolphins so he might be better than I give him credit for.

He's much better, but like you said, he does have a medical issue to think about.

And I don't have a narrowed down argument against Smoot, I've just never been that impressed. I'm not saying he's bad, he just never did anything to make me believe he was an elite player. Like you, I could be wrong, and God knows ANY free agent would be better than Bartee or McClingon...

ZootedGranny · 02-27-2005, 12:28 AM

If Miami is going to take a mid 2nd rounder for Surtain straight up, the trade needed to be done yesterday. I'd prefer Smoot in FA, but Surtain is no damn slouch.

bricks · 02-27-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

His knee problem worries me. I have to admit I never watch the Dolphins so he might be better than I give him credit for.

Ahh injuries are a part of the game. It's football man, guys are going to take their shots. Priest Holmes has had several injuries during his career. And he's great, productive. Not too many ppl worry about him now do they? Surtain is outstanding. Law or Surtain. Either or, I'd be very, very happy.

teedubya · 02-27-2005, 12:33 AM

How Old is Surtain?

bricks · 02-27-2005, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

How Old is Surtain?

28 years old

cheeeefs · 02-27-2005, 12:35 AM

http://www.miamidolphins.com/lockerr...asp?docid=9778

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02-27-2005, 12:07 AM	#2
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1902500	Guh. I guess it would be the most surefire way of getting somebody without getting into a bidding war, and Carl sucks at 2nd round picks, but considering we don't have a 3rd I don't think I like this move.... unless we bring in a 2nd cornerback in FA somehow.
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02-27-2005, 12:09 AM	#3
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $1938978	Any idea on how much he is going to want? I would rather have Smoot, Rolle, or Lucas myself.
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cheeeefs Aishwarya Rai Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Baltimore Casino cash: $10004900	not excited about giving up a 2nd rounder for him. But personally I would rather have him than any other CB out there all things considered. If we do get him you won't hear any complaining from me! __________________ "Yeah, I could do it. We both know you wouldn't stop me. Let's think about the logic. You create man, man suffers enormous amounts of pain, man dies. They say you rested on the seventh day, well maybe you should have spent that day on compassion."
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ZootedGranny Chump Steamroller Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: . Casino cash: $10015042	If Miami is going to take a mid 2nd rounder for Surtain straight up, the trade needed to be done yesterday. I'd prefer Smoot in FA, but Surtain is no damn slouch.
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