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Old 05-08-2005, 09:13 AM  
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If we win the Super Bowl,
do you think Trent replaces Len Dawson as the most popular QB in Chiefs history?
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:19 AM   #2
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Probably. Assuming he's an integral part of it. It's hard to gauge an "of all time" label, because the criteria will be different for everyone, but Green certainly has the numbers already. Post season wins is the only blemish on his resume IMO.


There are a lot of us who only know Len Dawson through stories (and as a radio and TV guy). I've seen very little of him playing football, so it's hard for me to call him a favorite. Before Green came along, all I had to choose from was a slew of mediocre QBs from the 90s, and a "past his prime" Montana.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:22 AM   #3
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That is comparing apples and oranges. It would be a generational thing. " All time" always breaks down to generations. The game is so different now.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:25 AM   #4
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But if he does good in the Super Bowl and brings that trophy back to KC......maybe just maybe
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:27 AM   #5
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He's more popular than Len is now.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:27 AM   #6
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I already consider Trent one of the best QB's for the Chiefs. He has put up some incredible numbers for a while now, and it's the defense that's kept him out of the playoff picture. If you look at the one playoff game we was in against Indianapolis, he did a hell of a job. It sure as hell wasn't Trent that choked that day.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:46 AM   #7
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I dont care if Len Dawson won us a Super Bowl or not, He's still an asshole and deserves to get his ass kicked for thinkin his shit doesnt stink. ****in pussy was injured all year during that Super Bowl year.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:47 AM   #8
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I still think Montana was the best for us, even though he was at the end of his career, he still guided us to that dreaded Buffalo conf. championship game.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:13 AM   #9
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As a long-time Chiefs fan I'm willing to admit that Lenny had a checkered past with the Chiefs. Hank Stram benched him many times in his career & he was always injured it seemed, but he did get the Chiefs to the Super Bowl a couple of times & won the Super Bowl MVP.

Lenny will always be a very popular player, but Trent Green could easily pass him in the next couple of years with a couple of Super Bowl appearances & wins!
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:21 AM   #10
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As a long-time Chiefs fan I'm willing to admit that Lenny had a checkered past with the Chiefs. Hank Stram benched him many times in his career & he was always injured it seemed, but he did get the Chiefs to the Super Bowl a couple of times & won the Super Bowl MVP.
20 of the 34 Super Bowl MVPs have been QBs. It is unfortunately almost a given that the winning QB will be the MVP. That sucks IMO.


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Game Date Most Valuable Player
XXXIX Feb. 6, 2005 Deion Branch
XXXVIII Feb. 1, 2004 Tom Brady
XXXVII Jan. 26, 2003 Dexter Jackson
XXXVI Feb. 3, 2002 Tom Brady
XXXV Jan. 28, 2001 Ray Lewis
XXXIV Jan. 30, 2000 Kurt Warner
XXXIII Jan. 31, 1999 John Elway
XXXII Jan. 25, 1998 Terrell Davis
XXXI Jan. 26, 1997 Desmond Howard
XXX Jan. 28, 1996 Larry Brown
XXIX Jan. 29, 1995 Steve Young
XXVIII Jan. 30, 1994 Emmitt Smith
XXVII Jan. 31, 1993 Troy Aikman
XXVI Jan. 26, 1992 Mark Rypien
XXV Jan. 27, 1991 Ottis Anderson
XXIV Jan. 28, 1990 Joe Montana
XXIII Jan. 22, 1989 Jerry Rice
XXII Jan. 31, 1988 Doug Williams
XXI Jan. 25, 1987 Phil Simms
XX Jan. 26, 1986 Richard Dent
XIX Jan. 20, 1985 Joe Montana
XVIII Jan. 22, 1984 Marcus Allen
XVII Jan. 30, 1983 John Riggins
XVI Jan. 24, 1982 Joe Montana
XV Jan. 25, 1981 Jim Plunkett
XIV Jan. 20, 1980 Terry Bradshaw
XIII Jan. 21, 1979 Terry Bradshaw
XII Jan. 15, 1978 Randy White, Harvey Martin
XI Jan. 9, 1977 Fred Biletnikoff
X Jan. 18, 1976 Lynn Swann
IX Jan. 12, 1975 Franco Harris
VIII Jan. 13, 1974 Larry Csonka
VII Jan. 14, 1973 Jake Scott
VI Jan. 16, 1972 Roger Staubach
V Jan. 17, 1971 Chuck Howley
IV Jan. 11, 1970 Len Dawson
III Jan. 12, 1969 Joe Namath
II Jan. 14, 1968 Bart Starr
I Jan. 15, 1967 Bart Starr
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:31 AM   #11
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****in pussy was injured all year during that Super Bowl year.
Emotionless translation: Dawson missed 5 games during that Super Bowl year.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:33 AM   #12
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Len Dawson is in the Hall of Fame.

Trent will be adored wether or not he wins a Super Bowl. If he does win one he will be worshipped.

All that being said Len Dawson = Hall of Fame

Trent Green = One of the best QB's in franchise history but no HOF.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:12 AM   #13
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Yep. He gets more TV coverage than Len did 30+ years ago. It's easier to like someone you get to see week in and week out. Plus Green is a damn good QB. Heh. Remember Trents first year here? I think he was one of the most hated.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:14 AM   #14
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If Trent had Len's defense, Trent would be in the same spot Brady is in.
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Old 05-08-2005, 12:01 PM   #15
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If Trent had Len's defense, Trent would be in the same spot Brady is in.
Dude, all those guys are either old, locked up, or dead now. Most of them haven't played football in thirty years? oh nevermind...
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