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07-27-2005, 05:26 PM | #2 |
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Rock Chalk, Jayhawk...
go, KU! Heh.
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07-27-2005, 06:13 PM | #3 |
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What's the law for trespassing? He was obviously kicked out, but if they really didn't want him to come back in, couldn't they have denied his second ticket purchase?
As much as I hate Mizzou, I would have cut my losses and moved on. Fighting it seems stupid to me.
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07-27-2005, 06:29 PM | #4 |
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What a joke.
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07-27-2005, 06:36 PM | #5 |
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If the banner would have been somewhat original I'd contest it.
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07-27-2005, 09:36 PM | #6 |
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Columbia Cops are ****in jokes anyway.
The cops down there ever since a shooting of a female officer think they're the second coming of Jesus, driving their patrol cars like they're Batman for pulling over someone that has a taillight missing, then instead of giving a notice that it needs to be replaced, they give tickets, ****in assholes.
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07-27-2005, 09:37 PM | #7 |
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I think it's BS that he had to remove a sign that just said "Call it what you want, it will always be Allen Fieldhouse East"
there's no harm in that, just another cop trying to push his weight around |
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07-27-2005, 09:53 PM | #8 |
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it was a case of abuse. An MU fan whose daughter attends mizzou right now was right there and is going to testify about how out of line the cops were in the situation. He was in the paper and said something that even with all the losing and shady conduct this just tops it for being ashamed of MU
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07-27-2005, 10:48 PM | #9 |
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Both sides seem overzealous if you ask me, but the guy contesting a 50 dollar fine while he will have to pay a lawyer a minimum of 150 dollars per billable hour to have a chance of winning is just downright ignorant.
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07-28-2005, 01:13 AM | #10 |
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or the lawyer he retained free legal services since hes a student from the law school. this case is pretty slam dunk with eye witness testimony.
Tell me how stupid you think it is if you got escorted out of Mile High for posting a non-offensive sign? Its only the 1st Amendment
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07-28-2005, 06:21 AM | #11 |
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1st Amendment has nothing to do with it.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." The courts have always ruled that a private organization or business (to include stadiums and arenas) can regulate any speech they want. Same with Bulletin Boards, Television Stations, Radio Stations, etc. While I'm not disagreeing that this was a pretty silly altercation all the way around, I've seen lots of signs and banners taken down at stadiums all around the country, esp. when put up by fans of the opposing team. A lot of stadiums have specific rules about how big a sign/banner can be and if it's considered interferring with another fan's enjoyment of the game (obstructing vision, etc.), stadium security will generally secure it and NOT return it. There's no 1st Amendment right to post a banner in any stadium or arena in the country as they're private property or at least controlled state/city property and not considered public (like a park or a city street). In fact, if you were walking down the street with a banner big enough to block the sidewalk so people couldn't get past, I imagine the boys in blue would show up and ask you to move it also.
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07-28-2005, 09:16 AM | #12 |
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the cop is an agent of the state... at a state funded university. This wasn't a situation as you describe. No one was being blocked by the sign, they were sitting above and hung it over the railing. They asked about putting up the sign and then the asshole cop decided to throw his weight around b/c he didn't like the sign.
When he used his status as a cop, even though he wasn't on duty and simply attending the game, he acted as a agent and not simply a fan. I'll see if I can find the original stories. This is nothing more than a twit cop trying to bully and the hillbilly is too dense to realize the ramification when citizens don't simply lay down and accept pleas for the sake of making it go away
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Here's the story, and the kids asked the usher for permission to post the banner. Read th MU fans reaction. Sorry, but this is just an asshole cop throwing his weight around and another showcase of abuse of power. However minor it may seem to you- what is going to stop him from doing this in other instances with greater consequencs?
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It wouldn't surprise me if it did happen though, because you have to understand what it is like to be a Mizzou fans. You hate the Jayhawks, and they always kick your azz in basketball. You hat the Jayhawks and when you kick thier azz in football they average 26 people a game and nobody cars, then they turn around and kick your azz at football 2 years running and all of a sudden you see KU gear being worn in the summer. It is a lose-lose situation, and Mizzou never sucks quite bad enough for quite long enough time to lose it's fans. That being said I don't condone any harassment other than trash talk, and that is only if the visiting fan starts it. I have been the minority opposing fan in Steelers Bars, Raiders bars in Oakland (while they were in LA), at Candlestick, and at the Georgia Dome. Harassment from the home-team fans can ruin your entire experience, and with the exception of Candlestick there have always been other home-team fans that stepped in and told the offenders to cool down if things got to tense. Everybody like to hate a rival, but you have to be smart enough to know when enough it enough. |
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07-28-2005, 09:41 AM | #15 |
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I agree Kings, so whats you're take when an MU "adult" fan gave his view point in story I just posted?
Jack Watring, chief of the MU Police Department
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