If you are in the military, or former military, I need your assistance please

Raiderhater · 08-19-2005, 11:00 PM

I was talking to this broad today who has recently left the Navy. She is telling me that you HAVE to be Rebublican to be in the military. It's in the rule books she says. If you aren't, you damn well better keep your mouth shut about it because you can be brought up on charges and maybe even kicked out. She says it is in the Uniformed Military Code, or whatever the hell those rules are titled.

I called BS on that. She challanged me to research it for myself, so here I am. Is she right, or is she full of shit?

08-19-2005, 11:03 PM

Not only is she FOS, she's stupid as well.

Raiderhater · 08-19-2005, 11:06 PM

She is female....

*ducking the thrown objects from the few female members on the board*

TheNextStep · 08-19-2005, 11:07 PM

She's absolutely completely full of shit. The overwhelming majority of military IS Republican (as they tend to fund the armed forces better) but the idea that the UCMJ mandates political party is stupid as shit.

The UCMJ and military regulations regarding politics says simply that you cannot, as a member of the armed forces, join in any political protests or rallies (for either side), because it may give the impression that you're representative of the military as opposed to simply representing yourself.

Tell Suzy the Squid that she joined the Navy because she was too stupid to get into the Air Force.

Raiderhater · 08-19-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNextStep

She's absolutely completely full of shit. The overwhelming majority of military IS Republican (as they tend to fund the armed forces better) but the idea that the UCMJ mandates political party is stupid as shit.

The UCMJ and military regulations regarding politics says simply that you cannot, as a member of the armed forces, join in any political protests or rallies (for either side), because it may give the impression that you're representative of the military as opposed to simply representing yourself.

Tell Suzy the Squid that she joined the Navy because she was too stupid to get into the Air Force.

Oh believe you me, I will pass that along.

TheNextStep · 08-19-2005, 11:16 PM

Here's the UCMJ:
http://www.constitution.org/mil/ucmj19970615.htm#X

Here's an article (Army specific) that pretty much shoots down any notion that you "have to be" republican. It specifically mentions that the military wants to be free from "partisan political entanglements."

http://www.mccoy.army.mil/ReadingRoo...activities.htm

She told you to do your own research because she damned good and well that she was told something by some other meathead, took it at face value, and never bothered to research it herself.

08-19-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNextStep

She's absolutely completely full of shit. The overwhelming majority of military IS Republican (as they tend to fund the armed forces better) but the idea that the UCMJ mandates political party is stupid as shit.

The UCMJ and military regulations regarding politics says simply that you cannot, as a member of the armed forces, join in any political protests or rallies (for either side), because it may give the impression that you're representative of the military as opposed to simply representing yourself.

Tell Suzy the Squid that she joined the Navy because she was too stupid to get into the Air Force.

The UCMJ does not touch the political aspect of the military, unless you want to invoke the Article 134 (I think that is the right one). It indicates that you can be charged with most anything.

934. ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

Aparently you got in!! Doesn't say much for the AF.

Just for arguments sake, the entry requirements for each service is virtually the same. The difference between the Marines/Army and the Navy/Air Force is that the Marines/Army personnel all have a secondary MOS that lets them be used as ground pounders ( it could be everyone's primary MOS). The Navy/Air Force have some grunt level jobs but have more specialty ratings than the other two services. You need to do more homework before you attack Suzy Squid.

Raiderhater · 08-19-2005, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNextStep

Here's the UCMJ:
http://www.constitution.org/mil/ucmj19970615.htm#X

Here's an article (Army specific) that pretty much shoots down any notion that you "have to be" republican. It specifically mentions that the military wants to be free from "partisan political entanglements."

http://www.mccoy.army.mil/ReadingRoo...activities.htm

She told you to do your own research because she damned good and well that she was told something by some other meathead, took it at face value, and never bothered to research it herself.

Yeah, I knew she was full of it, but I didn't have the proper resources at that given time to put her in her place.

It just wouldn't make sense for the military to do something like that, unless it had devious plans of domination.....

tk13 · 08-19-2005, 11:19 PM

There's no way she could've been serious. If that were the case, could you even imagine the ruckus Democrats would make over it.

**Mr. Kotter** · 08-19-2005, 11:19 PM

She's an absolute MORON; that is total bullshit...

About 75% of officers are Reps though; and I'd bet more than 60% of the enlisted ranks....despite the prevelance of minorities who otherwise would, demographically speaking, be likely Dems.

As a Dem officer, I was a definite minority.....

C-Mac · 08-19-2005, 11:20 PM

Waiting for the punchline.....

08-19-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

There's no way she could've been serious. If that were the case, could you even imagine the ruckus Democrats would make over it.

Why would they have anything to say? Most of them would hve left the country with Bill. I would think meme would send her kids overseas to a country that would take them to keep them out of the military. The way I read her, she is demoncratic.

08-19-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

She's an absolute MORON; that is total bullshit...

About 75% of officers are Reps though; and I'd bet more than 60% of the enlisted ranks....despite the prevelance of minorities who otherwise would, demographically speaking, be likely Dems.

As a Dem officer, I was a definite minority.....

I'd like to see your source for your numbers. I 'm not saying they are wrong, I've just never considered politics as someone that has been in the military. The next guy was just that. We hardly ever talked politics in the time I was in, we all had other thinkgs on our minds - - - which bars we would check out for the chicks when we hit port or other activities that was as far from anything that could be considered politics as we could get. Mostly guys headed for the parts of town furthest away from the ship as they could.

08-19-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Waiting for the punchline.....

Don't hold your breath. I don't believe it's forthcoming.

Raiderhater · 08-19-2005, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

There's no way she could've been serious. If that were the case, could you even imagine the ruckus Democrats would make over it.

Well, she sure seemed to be. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

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TheNextStep Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Omaha Casino cash: $10004900	She's absolutely completely full of shit. The overwhelming majority of military IS Republican (as they tend to fund the armed forces better) but the idea that the UCMJ mandates political party is stupid as shit. The UCMJ and military regulations regarding politics says simply that you cannot, as a member of the armed forces, join in any political protests or rallies (for either side), because it may give the impression that you're representative of the military as opposed to simply representing yourself. Tell Suzy the Squid that she joined the Navy because she was too stupid to get into the Air Force.
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TheNextStep Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Omaha Casino cash: $10004900	Here's the UCMJ: http://www.constitution.org/mil/ucmj19970615.htm#X Here's an article (Army specific) that pretty much shoots down any notion that you "have to be" republican. It specifically mentions that the military wants to be free from "partisan political entanglements." http://www.mccoy.army.mil/ReadingRoo...activities.htm She told you to do your own research because she damned good and well that she was told something by some other meathead, took it at face value, and never bothered to research it herself.
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