Going undefeated versus "resting starters".

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2005, 12:16 PM

As a hypothetical situation, let's say that your team is undefeated after 13 games. You've got three games left, including a couple of tough ones. Assume that you've already clinched home field.

At what point do you start sitting people out to avoid injuries and stuff?

THE RULES OF THIS POLL.

1. Answer the question for EACH record: 13-0, 14-0, and 15-0.

2. Your answer to the previous record WILL impact your potential answers to subsequent records.

Okay, hang on while I make the poll.

teedubya · 12-09-2005, 12:20 PM

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mwha ahah

jjjayb · 12-09-2005, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

Yes! In before the Poll is listed... this is such a great honor... knowing that as I type, Kevin is plotting and typing his poll masterpiece.

mwha ahah

Last one in before the poll.

Cormac · 12-09-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

Yes! In before the Poll is listed... this is such a great honor... knowing that as I type, Kevin is plotting and typing his poll masterpiece.

mwha ahah

Damn, dude. You're living a dream!

siberian khatru · 12-09-2005, 12:21 PM

What a stupid hypothetical. That situation would never arise.

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

What a stupid hypothetical. That situation would never arise.

What can I say? It's hard to come up with good topics in the offseason.

Mr. Laz · 12-09-2005, 12:29 PM

play all my starters unless they have some kind of injury that could be made worse by playing.

go for the undefeated record all the way.

Especially since many times resting your players ends up hurting your mometum for the playoffs as well.

undefeated record and keeping momentum

vrs

injury risk that could happen anytime anyway.

clear choice imo

teedubya · 12-09-2005, 12:33 PM

yeah, go for it... when you sit your starters, you are just scared... play scared = losses and injuries to your second stringers...

htismaqe · 12-09-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

play all my starters unless they have some kind of injury that could be made worse by playing.

go for the undefeated record all the way.

Especially since many times resting your players ends up hurting your mometum for the playoffs as well.

undefeated record and keeping momentum

vrs

injury risk that could happen anytime anyway.

clear choice imo

I absolutely agree. Never **** with the big MO.

NJ Chief Fan · 12-09-2005, 12:43 PM

theyll go 16-0 but will go 1-1 when it matters

**BigRedChief** · 12-09-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I absolutely agree. Never **** with the big MO.

Yep, You mess the MO you usually get something put on your azz.

Amnorix · 12-09-2005, 12:52 PM

I would play all starters until #1 seed was locked up.

After that, I'd play my starters at least for the first half of each game after that. If they play ok, then they come out. if they are looking sloppy, they stay in.

Keep in mind, resting "starters" really means "resting the star players". An NFL team isn't a college team. You can't bench the primary offensive and defensive players because that's more than half your team (22 starters plus key situational players, plus special teams gurus).

Example: Indy can't bench it's top 3 WRs. That would leave at most 2 WRs, and WRs aren't usually on the field for EVERY snap. Also, no NFL team carries 10 offensive linemen.

**cdcox** · 12-09-2005, 12:57 PM

19-0, baby! You only get a shot at history once.

Plus, I'm not convinced that a bye month would be very condusive to playoff success.

I would tend to play James and Freeny a little less in each game, and take Manning out when the game is not in doubt.

Sully · 12-09-2005, 01:13 PM

I would start a sort of re-do of the preseason, with the starters playing more and more until game 16, where they play most of the game.

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2005, 01:22 PM

Somebody mentioned this point on a thread a while back, and I really liked it. They said that people tend to remember Super Bowl winners, but an undefeated team would be talked about for decades (e.g., 1972 Dolphins).

In my opinion, going undefeated is well worth the risk to your starters. Plus, I think a team owes it to the game to make that effort. As a football fan, I'd be annoyed if they lose their last game because they're playing some fourth-string backup punter at quarterback.

View Poll Results: What would you do? Answer once for each record. SEE RULES BELOW.
Part One. (Never mind this.)	2	6.67%
13-0. I'd sit some of my starters.	6	20.00%
13-0. I'd keep all of my starters in.	19	63.33%
Part Two. (Never mind this.)	2	6.67%
14-0. I was sitting my starters last week and would keep sitting them.	6	20.00%
14-0. I was sitting my starters last week but would bring them back.	0	0%
14-0. I was starting my starters last week, but would sit them this week.	1	3.33%
14-0. I was starting my starters last week and would keep starting them.	17	56.67%
Part Three. (Never mind this.)	2	6.67%
15-0. I was sitting my starters last week and would keep sitting them.	2	6.67%
15-0. I was sitting my starters last week but would bring them back.	5	16.67%
15-0. I was starting my starters last week, but would sit them this week.	4	13.33%
15-0. I was starting my starters last week and would keep starting them.	16	53.33%
I don't have a strong enough resume to be a head coach.	3	10.00%
If Marty chokes, I'm going to .... (please specify)	2	6.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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12-09-2005, 12:20 PM	#2
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12-09-2005, 12:21 PM	#5
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2264950	What a stupid hypothetical. That situation would never arise.
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12-09-2005, 12:29 PM	#7
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	play all my starters unless they have some kind of injury that could be made worse by playing. go for the undefeated record all the way. Especially since many times resting your players ends up hurting your mometum for the playoffs as well. undefeated record and keeping momentum vrs injury risk that could happen anytime anyway. clear choice imo __________________
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12-09-2005, 12:33 PM	#8
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9470002	yeah, go for it... when you sit your starters, you are just scared... play scared = losses and injuries to your second stringers...
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NJ Chief Fan DAMMIT CARL! Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	theyll go 16-0 but will go 1-1 when it matters
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12-09-2005, 12:52 PM	#12
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	I would play all starters until #1 seed was locked up. After that, I'd play my starters at least for the first half of each game after that. If they play ok, then they come out. if they are looking sloppy, they stay in. Keep in mind, resting "starters" really means "resting the star players". An NFL team isn't a college team. You can't bench the primary offensive and defensive players because that's more than half your team (22 starters plus key situational players, plus special teams gurus). Example: Indy can't bench it's top 3 WRs. That would leave at most 2 WRs, and WRs aren't usually on the field for EVERY snap. Also, no NFL team carries 10 offensive linemen. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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12-09-2005, 12:57 PM	#13
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2201769	19-0, baby! You only get a shot at history once. Plus, I'm not convinced that a bye month would be very condusive to playoff success. I would tend to play James and Freeny a little less in each game, and take Manning out when the game is not in doubt.
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12-09-2005, 01:13 PM	#14
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	I would start a sort of re-do of the preseason, with the starters playing more and more until game 16, where they play most of the game. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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12-09-2005, 01:22 PM	#15
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3038491 VARSITY	Somebody mentioned this point on a thread a while back, and I really liked it. They said that people tend to remember Super Bowl winners, but an undefeated team would be talked about for decades (e.g., 1972 Dolphins). In my opinion, going undefeated is well worth the risk to your starters. Plus, I think a team owes it to the game to make that effort. As a football fan, I'd be annoyed if they lose their last game because they're playing some fourth-string backup punter at quarterback. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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