Jared Allen & Tamba Hali

penchief · 06-14-2006, 07:28 PM

I believe that any great improvement of our defense next year will be centered around the play of our DEs as a duo. With all the talk about the tempo being key and the DL needing to be in good enough shape to make plays all over the field, I can't help but think that's why they drafted Hali. He fit's their scheme.

If Hali plays the same way as a pro, he and Allen would be two top-notch pass rushers coming off the ends. The focus wouldn't be soley on Allen. If offenses have to pay special attention to both ends it might also make the middle softer for the DTs, give the linebackers more freedom, and the secondary would not have to cover good receivers for too long.

I could easily see them becoming the defensive leaders of the team while also inspiring each other to keep playing at a high level somewhat like DT and Neil Smith.

nychief · 06-14-2006, 07:32 PM

no shit.

KCChiefsMan · 06-14-2006, 07:32 PM

hmmmm, if Tamba Hali plays like a pro....that will make 2 great pass rushers on opposite ends? and that would actually improve the defense?? wow.....I'm speechless

penchief · 06-14-2006, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

hmmmm, if Tamba Hali plays like a pro....that will make 2 great pass rushers on opposite ends? and that would actually improve the defense?? wow.....I'm speechless

Of course it would be an improvement. I guess I didn't make myself clear. My point was that I think it would be "THE KEY." I see Hali playing the same way as a pro that he did in school. I think he'll make that transition fairly easily. I think he's good for double digit sacks as a rookie. I also think his style of play is contagious.

I guess I was only trying to say that Allen & Hali have a chance at being a special combo and turning our defense completely around, IMO.

SBK · 06-14-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

no shit.

penchief · 06-14-2006, 07:57 PM

I predict that Allen and Hali will be the stars of a KC defense that completely turns it around in 2006.

CHENZ A! · 06-14-2006, 08:04 PM

My buddy went and got a Hali jersey a week ago, so he will probably break his leg in River Falls.

Chiefs Pantalones · 06-14-2006, 08:13 PM

I predict that if our Dline is awesome, our defense will be awesome.

Go ahead and oooo and awwww now.

ChiefaRoo · 06-14-2006, 08:55 PM

I predict that if the Chiefs score more points than their opponents they'll win.

I love piling on

JBucc · 06-14-2006, 08:59 PM

Anywho I think DT play if more important for us right now than our DE's. Our DE's have been good to servicable (yes, even Hicks) but our DT's are either fat injured slobs or old.

JohnnyV13 · 06-14-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I predict that if our Dline is awesome, our defense will be awesome.

Go ahead and oooo and awwww now.

I go oooo and awwww at pretty much everything you post, but that's because I'm looking at QT's ass.

ChiefsCountry · 06-14-2006, 09:28 PM

If Sims could turn into a player, highly unlikely, our DL could actually be pretty good. Edwards, Reed, Dalton are really good rotation guys. Good signings in the offseason for the Chiefs.

I like the youth on our defense - Hali, Allen at ends, and Mitchell and DJ at LB. Could be set at those positions for a while.

Moooo · 06-14-2006, 09:52 PM

I would say that Hali won't be something amazing. I think what it will be is a solid DE, but nothing special.

I also agree with the DT argument. I think if we had a DT as good as Allen it would do more good than having another DE as good as Allen.

Moooo

macdawg · 06-15-2006, 05:06 AM

I was pleased with the Hali pick, I think he is just what we needed, I believe that for the last 3 years or so that Hicks has been a weak link on our defense, I've seen him come close but not finish one too many times, whether its due to lack of speed & burst, bad luck, whatever it may be I'm tired of it.

Now Hali does not have great speed, but he does have high energy and by all accounts he goes as hard in the 4th as he does in the 1st.

DE's make a bigger impact against the pass than DT's, so I think going for a DE in round 1 was the right call this year.

greg63 · 06-15-2006, 05:15 AM

It'd be nice to have a 1-2 punch combo again.

06-14-2006, 07:28 PM
penchief MVP Join Date: Feb 2003 Casino cash: $6325286	Jared Allen & Tamba Hali I believe that any great improvement of our defense next year will be centered around the play of our DEs as a duo. With all the talk about the tempo being key and the DL needing to be in good enough shape to make plays all over the field, I can't help but think that's why they drafted Hali. He fit's their scheme. If Hali plays the same way as a pro, he and Allen would be two top-notch pass rushers coming off the ends. The focus wouldn't be soley on Allen. If offenses have to pay special attention to both ends it might also make the middle softer for the DTs, give the linebackers more freedom, and the secondary would not have to cover good receivers for too long. I could easily see them becoming the defensive leaders of the team while also inspiring each other to keep playing at a high level somewhat like DT and Neil Smith.
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JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $10004952	Anywho I think DT play if more important for us right now than our DE's. Our DE's have been good to servicable (yes, even Hicks) but our DT's are either fat injured slobs or old.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2318752	If Sims could turn into a player, highly unlikely, our DL could actually be pretty good. Edwards, Reed, Dalton are really good rotation guys. Good signings in the offseason for the Chiefs. I like the youth on our defense - Hali, Allen at ends, and Mitchell and DJ at LB. Could be set at those positions for a while.
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06-14-2006, 09:52 PM	#13
Moooo Seeking Enlightenment... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Springfield Casino cash: $10004900	I would say that Hali won't be something amazing. I think what it will be is a solid DE, but nothing special. I also agree with the DT argument. I think if we had a DT as good as Allen it would do more good than having another DE as good as Allen. Moooo
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06-15-2006, 05:06 AM	#14
macdawg Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	I was pleased with the Hali pick, I think he is just what we needed, I believe that for the last 3 years or so that Hicks has been a weak link on our defense, I've seen him come close but not finish one too many times, whether its due to lack of speed & burst, bad luck, whatever it may be I'm tired of it. Now Hali does not have great speed, but he does have high energy and by all accounts he goes as hard in the 4th as he does in the 1st. DE's make a bigger impact against the pass than DT's, so I think going for a DE in round 1 was the right call this year.
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