Anyone heard about PSL's????

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01:35 PM

Bear with me, 'cuz I didn't get all of what was said.....

Apparently a certain percentage of money needed for the Arrowhead Renovations were to come from a $1.00 per ticket (tax?) increase over the next 25 years, pending league approval.

I just heard from a friend that the league has apparently denied that increase, and that STH's will be looking at a $130 "PSL Charge" per seat for the next 3 years to cover the cost.

I don't live in KC, so I have no idea how the Renovation bill read when voted upon.....but I find it odd that the original plan would have produced around $20M, and that the PSL deal would generate around $30M.

Has anyone heard anything regarding this?

Again, I'm not familiar with the situation, so if there are glaring errors, please educate me.....

tomahawk kid · 10-02-2006, 01:32 PM

You're on the money based on what I've heard.

I guess Kietzmann was going off about in on 810 a minute ago as well.

tomahawk kid · 10-02-2006, 01:34 PM

Check that.

Sounds like $131 over 3 years or about $44 per year.

Still not clear if it's PER seat or not.

More info here.

http://kcbuzzblog.typepad.com/kcbuzz..._seasonti.html

dave0320 · 10-02-2006, 01:35 PM

Yea, Keitzman reported it at about 2:05 PM. All you reported on the 1st post is correct. The $hit is going to hit the fan now!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-02-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

Check that.

Sounds like $131 over 3 years or about $44 per year.

Still not clear if it's PER sear or not.

More info here.

http://kcbuzzblog.typepad.com/kcbuzz..._seasonti.html

Assuming it is per seat, that only comes to roughly $10M......

Again, I'm not in KC, so I'm curious....is this old news? Or did this just come out today?

tomahawk kid · 10-02-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Assuming it is per seat, that only comes to roughly $10M......

Again, I'm not in KC, so I'm curious....is this old news? Or did this just come out today?

Came out last night / this morning........

dave0320 · 10-02-2006, 01:40 PM

October 02, 2006
Chiefs season ticket holders see green
Are you a Chiefs season-ticket holder giddy about yesterday's win? Here's some news likely to turn your Monday blue.

The NFL has rejected the Chiefs and Jackson County's plans to start charging next year a $1 per ticket surcharge to help pay for maintenance at Arrowhead Stadium. Instead, county legislators are considering giving the Chiefs the OK to charge $131 over three years to season-ticket holders or roughly $44 a year starting in 2007.

Needless to say, most Chiefs season-ticket holders interviewed Sunday who are paying $49 to $88 per ticket were none too amused. County legislators thrash the issue out this afternoon and are scheduled to vote next week.

Some county folks are none too happy because the NFL was suppose to have signed off on the surcharge by mid-March before new 25-year leases with the Royals and Chiefs went to county voters in April. The 3/8-cent sales tax approved by voters to raise $425 million for improvements (plus interest) at Arrowhead and Kauffman stadiums kicked in Sunday.

The plans to charge 30-cents per Royals tickets for maintenance remain unchanged.

Look for more details at www.kansascity.com this afternoon and in tomorrow's Star.

Posted by DeAnn Smith

**Dartgod** · 10-02-2006, 01:41 PM

First I've heard of this. I'm not happy about it; the bastards are about to price me out of season tickets as it is. I thought this whole thing was to be funded by a sales tax increase anyway?

**** 'em I say. The mother****ers can have their season tickets!

ChiefsCountry · 10-02-2006, 01:51 PM

Chiefs wont go to the PSL's, they were too proud to tell me when I called them for my season tix that they were one of the only teams not too.

Also I heard that they will be changing the price structure around Arrowhead, Club and lower level will go up in price but the upper level will decrease.

tomahawk kid · 10-02-2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod

First I've heard of this. I'm not happy about it; the bastards are about to price me out of season tickets as it is. I thought this whole thing was to be funded by a sales tax increase anyway?

**** 'em I say. The mother****ers can have their season tickets!

The original plan was to increase the ticket prices about $1 per ticket per game.

If they charge a $44 "fee" for each seat, you're basically playing the charge in a lump sum as opposed to per game.

Not saying it's right, but it's not like the Chiefs have increased the fee exponentially as Kietzman presented it.

That dude usually runs with about 1/3 of the facts and this case is no exception.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-02-2006, 02:16 PM

I'm just finding it a bit odd that the three scenarios generate as little as $10M, to as much as $30M. Pretty wide gap, IMO.

And while we're on the subject of renovations, they better make that pathetic video/sound system a priority.

It's like watching a bad kung-fu movie. Yesterday was an all-time low in the 4 years I've been a STH.....

tomahawk kid · 10-02-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm just finding it a bit odd that the three scenarios generate as little as $10M, to as much as $30M. Pretty wide gap, IMO.

And while we're on the subject of renovations, they better make that pathetic video/sound system a priority.

It's like watching a bad kung-fu movie. Yesterday was an all-time low in the 4 years I've been a STH.....

We have seats in 114 & 115.

During the home opener, it sounded like the speakers were turned off on our side of the stadium.

Was it similiar yesterday?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-02-2006, 02:35 PM

We're at the other end, 333....

Sounded to me like the speakers at our end weren't on at all, and the speakers on your end were cutting in/out......

Regardless, it's inexcusable in a NFL venue.......

tomahawk kid · 10-02-2006, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We're at the other end, 333....

Sounded to me like the speakers at our end weren't on at all, and the speakers on your end were cutting in/out......

Regardless, it's inexcusable in a NFL venue.......

Nice......

**dirk digler** · 10-02-2006, 02:57 PM

KK said this afternoon that in the lease agreement the Chiefs put "pending league approval" when it came to the $1 charge. Then when the vote passed the Chiefs went to the NFL and asked them to not approve it so they could line their pockets.

He said the maintenance costs were supposed to be around $30 million dollars but since it was denied now the Chiefs are only going to contribute $9 million all coming in the first 3 years. After that they aren't paying for any maintenance.

10-02-2006, 01:29 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4781115	Anyone heard about PSL's???? Bear with me, 'cuz I didn't get all of what was said..... Apparently a certain percentage of money needed for the Arrowhead Renovations were to come from a $1.00 per ticket (tax?) increase over the next 25 years, pending league approval. I just heard from a friend that the league has apparently denied that increase, and that STH's will be looking at a $130 "PSL Charge" per seat for the next 3 years to cover the cost. I don't live in KC, so I have no idea how the Renovation bill read when voted upon.....but I find it odd that the original plan would have produced around $20M, and that the PSL deal would generate around $30M. Has anyone heard anything regarding this? Again, I'm not familiar with the situation, so if there are glaring errors, please educate me..... Last edited by OnTheWarpath15; 10-02-2006 at 01:35 PM..
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10-02-2006, 01:32 PM	#2
tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	You're on the money based on what I've heard. I guess Kietzmann was going off about in on 810 a minute ago as well.
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10-02-2006, 01:34 PM	#3
tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	Check that. Sounds like $131 over 3 years or about $44 per year. Still not clear if it's PER seat or not. More info here. http://kcbuzzblog.typepad.com/kcbuzz..._seasonti.html
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10-02-2006, 01:35 PM	#4
dave0320 Coach Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Section 104 Casino cash: $10005000	Yea, Keitzman reported it at about 2:05 PM. All you reported on the 1st post is correct. The $hit is going to hit the fan now! __________________ "Good things happen to good people and if you strive to do good things, it will eventually come back to you".
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10-02-2006, 01:40 PM	#7
dave0320 Coach Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Section 104 Casino cash: $10005000	October 02, 2006 Chiefs season ticket holders see green Are you a Chiefs season-ticket holder giddy about yesterday's win? Here's some news likely to turn your Monday blue. The NFL has rejected the Chiefs and Jackson County's plans to start charging next year a $1 per ticket surcharge to help pay for maintenance at Arrowhead Stadium. Instead, county legislators are considering giving the Chiefs the OK to charge $131 over three years to season-ticket holders or roughly $44 a year starting in 2007. Needless to say, most Chiefs season-ticket holders interviewed Sunday who are paying $49 to $88 per ticket were none too amused. County legislators thrash the issue out this afternoon and are scheduled to vote next week. Some county folks are none too happy because the NFL was suppose to have signed off on the surcharge by mid-March before new 25-year leases with the Royals and Chiefs went to county voters in April. The 3/8-cent sales tax approved by voters to raise $425 million for improvements (plus interest) at Arrowhead and Kauffman stadiums kicked in Sunday. The plans to charge 30-cents per Royals tickets for maintenance remain unchanged. Look for more details at www.kansascity.com this afternoon and in tomorrow's Star. Posted by DeAnn Smith __________________ "Good things happen to good people and if you strive to do good things, it will eventually come back to you".
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10-02-2006, 01:41 PM	#8
Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $7100000	First I've heard of this. I'm not happy about it; the bastards are about to price me out of season tickets as it is. I thought this whole thing was to be funded by a sales tax increase anyway? ** 'em I say. The mother**ers can have their season tickets! __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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10-02-2006, 01:51 PM	#9
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $1998752	Chiefs wont go to the PSL's, they were too proud to tell me when I called them for my season tix that they were one of the only teams not too. Also I heard that they will be changing the price structure around Arrowhead, Club and lower level will go up in price but the upper level will decrease.
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10-02-2006, 02:16 PM	#11
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4781115	I'm just finding it a bit odd that the three scenarios generate as little as $10M, to as much as $30M. Pretty wide gap, IMO. And while we're on the subject of renovations, they better make that pathetic video/sound system a priority. It's like watching a bad kung-fu movie. Yesterday was an all-time low in the 4 years I've been a STH.....
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10-02-2006, 02:35 PM	#13
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4781115	We're at the other end, 333.... Sounded to me like the speakers at our end weren't on at all, and the speakers on your end were cutting in/out...... Regardless, it's inexcusable in a NFL venue.......
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10-02-2006, 02:57 PM	#15
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $2964644	KK said this afternoon that in the lease agreement the Chiefs put "pending league approval" when it came to the $1 charge. Then when the vote passed the Chiefs went to the NFL and asked them to not approve it so they could line their pockets. He said the maintenance costs were supposed to be around $30 million dollars but since it was denied now the Chiefs are only going to contribute $9 million all coming in the first 3 years. After that they aren't paying for any maintenance.
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